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Is the Chinese Communist Party Really 'Communist'?
Townhall ^ | 08/10/2023 | Mark Lewis

Posted on 08/10/2023 8:23:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: dfwgator
--- "... in the next sentence Hitler would talk about 'Jewish Capitalism'."

Correct. And he and that 'amusing' Dr. Goebbels would often refer to their brand as "anti-capitalist." How up-to-date that is in today's American academe....

41 posted on 08/10/2023 9:05:39 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: SeekAndFind


42 posted on 08/10/2023 9:08:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Their system is part Marxist and part traditional Chinese which has no western equivalent.

The closest analogy I can think of to describing it for someone from the west to immediately understand is “theocratic slave state”


43 posted on 08/10/2023 9:13:03 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Boogieman

I should maybe say think in theory communism is good.

From his essay: “Communism has been attempted often in history but never practiced successfully..”

He then cries Reagan whose comment is quite different.

He writes: “China is a Leftist totalitarian government”. which is true and describes communism, but then writes:” not a communist one.”

This is one mixed up boy.

What point is he trying to make? What is he trying to accomplish in writing this?


44 posted on 08/10/2023 9:15:54 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve never understood how the leaders of a society that was an advanced civilization when Karl Marx’ homeland was nothing more than a collection of barbaric savages, could adopt his form of government. How does the Chinese government reconcile this? “Yeah, we’ve been around much longer than you, but have a much better idea!”


45 posted on 08/10/2023 9:16:15 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are the same as the Chinese triads and the former Chinese warlords - criminal group, but unlike regular criminals they are 100% about getting and keeping 100% of the political power in their hands. They get away with not looking like “regular” criminals only because 100% of the police power is in their hands, and they can and do do with it as they wish.

America has been wrong from the beginning in the geopoltical arena when it comes to Taiwan.

It is not a matter if “Chinese” “national” interest, while it is 100% only a matter of CCP political interest. Taiwan is a democracy, the CCP is not. Were the CCP not in charge in China and China was a true democracy like Taiwan, China and Taiwan would have already peacefully resolved any post-1949 issue between China and Taiwan. They haven’t because democratic Taiwan cannot surrender to dictatorship of the CCP.

If the people of mainland China want to reunite with the people of Taiwan, they can easily do so by dumping the CCP.


46 posted on 08/10/2023 9:21:19 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: ifinnegan

“What point is he trying to make? What is he trying to accomplish in writing this?”

I don’t know if even he knows.


47 posted on 08/10/2023 9:21:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Yeah.


48 posted on 08/10/2023 9:22:48 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

“No it’s fascist.

Just like the United States’ government.”

Exactly! China is about as non communist as you can get.

The essence of communism is no private property or enterprises. China and the US lead the world in both.

Fascism on the other hand allows both free enterprise and private property, as long as it doesn’t run afoul of the powers that be.

China is a one party fascist dictatorship. We’re not far from that.

And if one really stops and thinks about it, authoritarianism has been the default human governance for most of human history. From tribes, to kingdoms, to empires, to dynasties.


49 posted on 08/10/2023 9:25:31 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: RoosterRedux; dfwgator
Mao wasn’t a true believer in Marxism. He thought it was great for China because he could use it to replace the thousand various religions that dominated the country...and thereby give his dictatorship greater control.

People said the same thing about Stalin. But it's not true. Stalin and Mao definitely sought power for themselves, but they were also convinced believers in Marxism-Leninism (though Mao's understanding may have been more fragmentary or less orthodox than Stalin's). You don't become a dictator without wanting power for yourself -- Lenin certainly did -- but that doesn't mean that the ideology was just a sham.

50 posted on 08/10/2023 9:31:37 AM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind
Despite some conservative claims, neither the CCP or the Democrats are ''communist'' in the true sense of the word. There is no “egalitarianism” in either.

I would agree. The end goal in both cases isn't ending capitalism and creating a command economy. They don't want to kill the golden goose.

But I'd also note that the current "green" visions -- much more popular in the West than in China -- do have some serious similiarities to communist thought and practice.

The Democrats aren't communist, but there is something in what they say and do that certainly could create that impression.

51 posted on 08/10/2023 9:37:16 AM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course they are.Marx,Lenin,Stalin,Mao and other top Commies never had to worry about elections and never wavered from their “from those according to their means” attitude.


52 posted on 08/10/2023 9:56:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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Yes, but it’s more a National Socialist flavor of Communism. It’s also picking up racist Han-centric ideology now. It will soon be if not already there be a Sino-Nazi state. Example look at Uighur treatment.


53 posted on 08/10/2023 10:02:33 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: ifinnegan; Boogieman
Of course it’s Marxist. Of course it’s communist. People who claim PRC is not communist and that the Chinese COMMUNIST Party is not communist are idiots who think communism is actually good.

Agreed. If you get down to it, Marxism (communism) is just an idea thrown out as PR to get people to agree to totalitarianism or even fascism. And socialism is just a softer sounding version of communism.

Just like Rush often said of the Dims that the Dims' stated goal is never their real goal. The leaders who push the ideals of communism aren't really trying to implement communism in the fake Marx utopian view. That can never happen, especially with god-denying leaders.

54 posted on 08/10/2023 10:05:42 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Two classes, elites and servants.

Servants are held in their place by the greatest motivator of all, fear.

55 posted on 08/10/2023 10:10:53 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: Tell It Right

“ And socialism is just a softer sounding version of communism. ”

Yeah. And this guy didn’t even use the word socialism which the Chicoms use even more than and interchangeably with communism.


56 posted on 08/10/2023 10:13:06 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Meme-worthy! Thanks!


57 posted on 08/10/2023 10:36:06 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-AaA)
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To: AlaskaErik
China never was as advanced as you think it was.

Take their idea that their government should be run by eunuchs. Sure, let's test for the smart guys, chop off their balls and put them in charge. What could go wrong?

58 posted on 08/10/2023 11:09:13 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: aquila48
China has no private property.
59 posted on 08/10/2023 11:10:55 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Communist until it fails, then they will tell us it wasn't *real* communism.
Next time however will work.

60 posted on 08/10/2023 11:35:03 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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