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Banker says Trump’s financial statements were key to loan approvals, but there were ‘sanity checks’
AP ^ | 10/11/2023 | Michael Sisak

Posted on 10/12/2023 1:31:03 PM PDT by thegagline

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A rational and honest judge would have dismissed the charges against Trump and referred Letitia James to the bar for suspension/disbarment.
1 posted on 10/12/2023 1:31:03 PM PDT by thegagline
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A rational and honest judge would have dismissed the charges against Trump and referred Letitia James to the bar for suspension/disbarment.

100%

2 posted on 10/12/2023 1:33:19 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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But although the bank didn’t conduct its own full appraisals of Trump’s properties

So first, who's fault is that and second, I guess nobody knows what the real value was so how can they now say he overvalued properties?

3 posted on 10/12/2023 1:35:23 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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“A rational and honest judge would have dismissed the charges against Trump and referred Letitia James to the bar for suspension/disbarment.”

And then summoned the large men in white coats to lock her up in a rubber room!


4 posted on 10/12/2023 1:36:09 PM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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+1

5.56mm


5 posted on 10/12/2023 1:36:36 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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IF HE PAID BACK EVERY SINGLE LOAN——

WHY DOES IT MATTER ???


6 posted on 10/12/2023 1:37:40 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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IF HE PAID BACK EVERY SINGLE LOAN—— WHY DOES IT MATTER ???

Exactly. Nobody harmed and the banker's profited.

7 posted on 10/12/2023 1:39:14 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I don’t Think I know anyone in real estate that did not over inflate the value of a property on transaction’s and under value property for tax payments unless it was in their best interest to do so.


8 posted on 10/12/2023 1:41:08 PM PDT by Liaison (CTANSTAAFL)
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It does not matter. What matters is the ‘law business’ intends to take Mar-a-Lago away from its rightful owner, kinda like Jezebel took that vineyard for Ahab Somebody wants Mar-a-Lago, hook or crook the law business intends on taking it..
9 posted on 10/12/2023 1:41:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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So the douche bank failed its fiduciary Duty and did not do appraisals?


10 posted on 10/12/2023 1:41:55 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Is this the same judge who said Mar-a-Lago’s market value to be about $18 million?


11 posted on 10/12/2023 1:42:49 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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...financial statements that a court has since deemed fraudulent...

Trump was denied a jury trial. A partisan hack "judge" "deemed" the statements to be fraudulent. A judge has no business "deeming" anything.

12 posted on 10/12/2023 1:47:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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“.. difference of opinion over how to account for golf membership”
This is not fraud. Case closed!


13 posted on 10/12/2023 1:49:09 PM PDT by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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I’m still trying to understand why a private deal between two willing parties, who both agreed on the amount and terms and signed an agreement to such, where all loans were re-paid in full, and no suits nor a dispute of any kind arose between them - is subject to NY Courts at all


14 posted on 10/12/2023 1:49:39 PM PDT by PGR88
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Trump was denied a jury trial.

There are no jury trials for cases in equity in NY. That is the law. Trump’s lawyers rightfully didn’t challenge this.

15 posted on 10/12/2023 1:53:27 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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Apparently in New York law, it matters not that no one claimed to be damaged by Trump’s business dealings or that all the loans were repaid. It all hinges on ORANGE MAN BAD!!


16 posted on 10/12/2023 1:53:32 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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But although the bank didn’t conduct its own full appraisals of Trump’s properties, it sometimes gave sizable “haircuts” to the values he’d placed on such holdings as Trump Tower and his golf courses, Haigh said.

That’s really a hideous banking practice. Banks need to protect their shareholders by doing full appraisals on all loans. They have a fiduciary responsibility to do so. So who has actually committed fraud in this case? I sense that with a little investigation you would find that Deutsche Bank has been repeatedly lying and cutting corners that had a negative impact of it shareholders. Contrast to the Trump Organization actually repaying their loans and benefiting many in the process.

Deutsche Bank has failed its Federal Reserve stress test and is on the verge of bankruptcy. Perhaps the cause is Deutsche Bank‘s business practices or lack there of.

17 posted on 10/12/2023 1:54:00 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Muslims in America must immediately return to their nations of origin to fight Islamic extremism.)
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So there was no fraud.

“It’s not lying. It’s commercial real estate.”


18 posted on 10/12/2023 1:54:40 PM PDT by struggle
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The value of real estate isn’t fixed even the point of sale because its value is dependent on what the next fool is willing to pay for it. It’s a guessing game every time because nobody has perfect knowledge.


19 posted on 10/12/2023 1:59:18 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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“...it sometimes gave sizable “haircuts” to the values he’d placed on such holdings as Trump Tower and his golf courses, Haigh said.”

If Trump put his property in the best possible light, and that is fraud, then EVERY company who puts out a commercial on TV has committed fraud.

Plus every woman who wears make-up for a date. The list is endless.


20 posted on 10/12/2023 1:59:33 PM PDT by odawg
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