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How Hamas Fooled the Experts
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Posted on 10/14/2023 5:57:21 AM PDT by FarCenter

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To: FarCenter

Too busy hunting down right wing, MAGA extremists.


21 posted on 10/14/2023 6:38:43 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: FarCenter

Nothing different from how they treated the PLO


22 posted on 10/14/2023 6:41:26 AM PDT by pas
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To: FarCenter

They told you who they are. Believe them


23 posted on 10/14/2023 6:45:48 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: FarCenter

Maybe too much reliance on iron dome, which they managed to overwhelm.
I also head they were using cameras with AI to monitor activity that might indicate that an attack was imminent. Does anyone know what kind of communications they were using? At any rate, they managed to knock-out the Israeli communications, which prevented warnings from going out and a more rapid response.


24 posted on 10/14/2023 6:46:09 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: FarCenter
Even to the most hardened Israeli security officials they were a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot whose extreme rhetoric and regrettably unshakable habit of murdering Jewish civilians could be understood within the normative politics of “resistance movements.”

Even in the most Pius Muslim nations of the Mideast the Muslim Brotherhood was an illegal political party.

In the 1990s under pressure of the United States I believe it was Egypt was forced to lift the ban.

The US was trying to develop an alternative to Arafat and his PLO in Israel.

Why the US thought this was a good idea I can’t even guess.

25 posted on 10/14/2023 6:46:37 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: FarCenter

That’s because most *experts* are idiots.


26 posted on 10/14/2023 6:50:05 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: FarCenter

“Published: 04.12.2018”

“with fears of potentially thousands of Gazans crossing the barrier, some threatening to commit violence against Israelis, kidnap Israelis and Israeli soldiers”

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/gaza-march-return-what-you-need-know


27 posted on 10/14/2023 6:50:39 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
"Look at the maps and the picture of the young men cutting barbed wire and the V-for-victory hand signs:

Just wow... What an embarrassment for all those "Smart" folks 'a.? It kinda makes "Never Again" ring a little hollow....

28 posted on 10/14/2023 6:51:01 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: FarCenter
best minds in Washington and Jerusalem

Lazy ass government employees. There’s only one thing worse, government stenographers in the press that idolize lazy ass government employees. Their hatred of the productive is easily seen in attacks of Donald Trump.

29 posted on 10/14/2023 6:53:28 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Muslims in America must immediately return to their nations of origin to fight Islamic extremism.)
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To: smokingfrog

quotes from 2018:

Sderot is only 700 meters east of [the Palestinian town of] Beit Hanoun in nothern Gaza. The headquarters of the Israeli army is there, and houses about 800 pigs. [The town] can be reached in two minutes on motorcycles or in five-eight minutes at a brisk run.” He urged: “Murder, slaughter, burn and never show them any mercy.”

it houses only 15 famlies. Pounce on them with knives

[from The Middle East Media Research Institute page I mistakenly double linked to]


30 posted on 10/14/2023 6:56:21 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: FarCenter
How Hamas Fooled the Experts

By lying.

To our supposed "betters" who are too stupid to know when they're being lied to.

31 posted on 10/14/2023 6:57:47 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: FarCenter

Most “experts” these days are nothing more that narcissistic big mouths trying to impress the far left, hairy-chested females and chimps and apes who look like far-left females.


32 posted on 10/14/2023 7:00:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Make America FIRST Again. FJB)
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To: FarCenter

Yes, interesting.

“They said exactly what they are going to do—to breach the fence, then drive to the towns, and to kill,” Carmon said.

Ben Shapiro has been doing some excellent commentary on this. He says Hamas tells the world exactly what they are going to do, and the world just refuses to believe them.


33 posted on 10/14/2023 7:02:52 AM PDT by randita (I will support Ron DeSantis in the primary.)
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To: FarCenter

It is the job of counter-terrorism to anticipate such planning & attacks. It is the job of counter intelligence to detect and anticipate the logistical planning of such attacks, and it is the job of the military to maintain readiness, including changing schedules and rapid response teams on alert.

And that’s just a snapshot.

They say it was a ‘failure’ (and/or plural). Now they say they ‘fooled’ the Israelis.

Labeling the cause of the lack of preparation & response to these attacks as ‘failure’ from a ‘charade’ is an insult to ‘our’ intelligence and smacks loudly of gaslighting.

If I was Israeli, I’d want answers. I’m not Israeli and I want answers, because I remain convinced that our intelligence had information about hamas, possibly even about this attack. I also suspect that the Israelis knew more than they will ever admit. If there was a ‘failure’ in Israel, it was the trend of liberalism which facilitated the attack, the effects of which upon Israeli government haven’t yet been seen.

More importantly, remember how this played out: I strongly suspect we’ll see the same BS following the next attacks here.


34 posted on 10/14/2023 7:03:02 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: occamrzr06; Enterprise

Exactly.


35 posted on 10/14/2023 7:03:56 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Ken H

Nailed it.


36 posted on 10/14/2023 7:04:15 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: NWFree

YES!


37 posted on 10/14/2023 7:04:41 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: FarCenter

BTTT


38 posted on 10/14/2023 7:06:56 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: FarCenter
Average IQ of a Palestinian: 78 link here.

A 32-year-old member asked:

How functional can you be with a low IQ like 80?

Dr. Grace Ho

answered

Clinical Psychology 18 years experience

Not too bad: Iq 80 is within borderline intellectual functioning. The person should have basic self care, reading, and writing skills. However, he/she may have trouble with complex math problems or abstract reasoning. He/she usually has safety awareness, but still need reminders to ensure safety and well-beings (eg. Turn off stove, take medication, go to doctor's appointment).

39 posted on 10/14/2023 7:14:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: FarCenter
Outstanding article ... watching these so-called "experts" eating crow is just too delicious.


40 posted on 10/14/2023 7:14:04 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.)
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