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Sarah Sanders on Trump Endorsement: ‘The Trump Presidency Was a Complete and Total Success’
Breitbart ^ | 13 Nov 2023 | JEFF POOR

Posted on 11/13/2023 9:14:59 AM PST by SoConPubbie

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To: frog in a pot
Any debate - whether over understanding or definition - will have to address the purpose of including the class of ordinary "citizen" in the sentence that introduces NBC.

Agreed. The point was our Founders wanted people who would have been "Americanized" and loyal or taught loyalty from the start.

Remember, many early Americans spent time abroad and had children while they were abroad. But AFAIK, those children born abroad to American citizens were considered NBC.

Upon ratification, there were citizens who were not born in America and/or were not born to American citizens abroad.

So, again, if Ramaswamy was born on U.S. soil and his parents were here legally, he may very well be considered an NBC.

Not true with fraudsters like Obama, however, who hid his birth certificate and lied through his teeth about it.

21 posted on 11/13/2023 6:55:28 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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We have had a good exchange. Let me throw a couple of things on the table in parting.

- ...In addition to the things you mention, "our Founders wanted" candidates whose parents were loyal by birth or citizenship (recall that we had just fought a bloody, expensive war with England), but they understood it was impossible for a candidate born before Adoption to have such parents and so provided a temporary, time sensitive provision to solve that problem.

- a parent "being here legally" is not the same as being a citizen.

Now that you have a sense of my view you can imagine how surprised I was when my R Senator told me that if Obama said he was born in Hawaii that was good enough for him. It was a sad moment and my first thought was "the fix has gotta' be in".

22 posted on 11/14/2023 5:34:26 AM PST by frog in a pot (There can be no effective backup plan unless the threat(s) are recognized.)
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To: frog in a pot

yes, the fix was in

Pelousy doctored the eligiblity certification papers for Obama
AND
the DemoNaziCommie Election Theft Machine was well greased and ready to run

thus, we got Obama or whatever his real name is


23 posted on 11/14/2023 5:37:57 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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All you mention and likely more.

IMO, even those of our R leaders who were not coerced or bought off must have thought based on intel available only to them that Hillary was a worse choice.

24 posted on 11/14/2023 6:01:45 AM PST by frog in a pot (There can be no effective backup plan unless the threat(s) are recognized.)
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Hopefully we both get that NBC is not as cut-and-dried as some think but that doesn’t excuse those that allow the fraudulent Obama’s of this world to lie their way to the Presidency.

The last two Democratic Presidents have both ascended to the White House through blatant fraud, lies, and deceit.

As Murray Burns in “A Thousand Clowns” said, “frauds, fakes, phoneys, and frogs.”

See ya.


25 posted on 11/14/2023 7:02:19 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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