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We Can't Afford Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro's Infighting Over Israel
PJ Media ^ | 11/16/2023 | Jon Del Arroz

Posted on 11/16/2023 10:14:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: ifinnegan

I’m not going to play your childish semantic games and “gotcha.”

I am questioning Shapiro and his style of argument and rhetoric, not offering suggestions for Israeli policy.


41 posted on 11/16/2023 11:36:24 AM PST by PGR88
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To: montag813

You are pulling something out from 16 years ago to smear someone you dislike ? She was not even an adult then. Why don’t you also post photos of influential conservatives who were ex liberals.. from when they were liberals ?


42 posted on 11/16/2023 11:40:13 AM PST by libh8er
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To: PGR88
Ben Shapiro never, ever will question Israel, or discuss any nuance about it.

So what "nuance" is there to discuss about Israel, concerning Hamas's massacres of October 7?

You think the Israelis had it coming?

43 posted on 11/16/2023 11:46:30 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: SeekAndFind
The author wrote more than 20 paragraphs, and I still have no clear sense of what Owens and Shapiro were fighting about.

Owens is apparently anti-war, which happens to be the same political camouflage that many anti-Israel and anti-Jew zealots proudly wear every time Israel is attacked.

Is Owens also anti-war on Ukraine versus Russia? On Taiwan versus the Chinese Communist Party?

I like Candice Owens, but if she is NOT cheering on the complete destruction of the Hamas terror organization, that is definitely poor judgment.

44 posted on 11/16/2023 11:55:07 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: montag813; Jarhead9297; libh8er

So we should all be liable for the dumb opinions we held as teenagers? Please.

(And I’m sure getting married to a conservative English Catholic, and becoming a mother, did absolutely nothing to change her mind on certain things.)


45 posted on 11/16/2023 11:59:05 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Timber Rattler
You think the Israelis had it coming?

Please stop your childish, baiting bulls**

You may think you are being a clever debater, but you actually appear as a fool and propagandist

46 posted on 11/16/2023 12:00:31 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Yes, can’t back up your statements.

There no gotchas.

You’re just trying to smear him because he is Jewish by saying crap you cannot even support.


47 posted on 11/16/2023 12:10:04 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
You’re just trying to smear him because he is Jewish

You need to move beyond the childish, ad-hominem, name-calling logical fallacies

48 posted on 11/16/2023 12:20:53 PM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

These asshats are as bad at the WWF/WWE.

It’s all noise.

To quote the Bard: “It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”


49 posted on 11/16/2023 12:24:25 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: PGR88

What other conclusion can one take from your comments?

You stated he would never question Israel’s government and I simply asked what do you think he should question.

It’s not a trick question.


50 posted on 11/16/2023 12:37:45 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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51 posted on 11/16/2023 12:42:39 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: dforest

“Same thing with Ukraine. You have to want to pay for it all and slobber all over Zelensky or you are a Putin supporter.”

Strange, I’ve never said we have to pay for it all or slobbered over Zelensky, and nobody has ever accused me of being a Putin supporter.


52 posted on 11/16/2023 12:47:35 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Just mythoughts

‘Tis hyperbole.


53 posted on 11/16/2023 12:51:23 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Well, I guess you are the lucky one.


54 posted on 11/16/2023 1:00:38 PM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

They are both childish idiots.


55 posted on 11/16/2023 1:46:01 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LOBALISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: redgolum

Stick that dual loyalty charge up your rear. I’m 1,000 percent America First, and also support Israel 100 percent. Shapiro need to co? To YESHUA, that is the real issue.


56 posted on 11/16/2023 1:48:32 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LOBALISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Reverend Wright

Both of them don’t come to these issues with a biblical worldview.


57 posted on 11/16/2023 1:50:15 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LOBALISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve got issues with both esp Shapiro
He lost his temper and should make amends


58 posted on 11/16/2023 1:51:08 PM PST by wardaddy (I have seen true anti semitism is more common in USA than I imagined. A disease in the public mind)
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To: PGR88

If you don’t look at these events with a biblical Old and New Testment perspective, than you really don’t know what is going on.


59 posted on 11/16/2023 1:52:43 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LOBALISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: redgolum

Shapiro tolerates Knowles trump support

Ben is a protoneocon


60 posted on 11/16/2023 1:53:08 PM PST by wardaddy (I have seen true anti semitism is more common in USA than I imagined. A disease in the public mind)
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