Black women most likely to die in medieval London plague (actual BBC article)

BBC ^ | 11/21/2023

[Augie]

Fleas are racist. Who knew?

[Red Badger]

I’ve read a goodly amount of Kipling and he had one of the characters in a story use the ‘N’ word in reference to the native Indians...........Therefore we must ‘cancel’ Kipling..........

[Jamestown1630]

The legends tell of a Moorish knight of the Round Table, Morien; to wind up in the legends, they were not unknown or all despised in England.

[alexander_busek]

Those 3 cemeteries could have been in predominately black areas.

Yeah, in the 1300s! London's predominantly Black areas! Sure! Probably very close to the predominantly East Indian neighborhoods of 14th-century London!

Regards,

[bgill]

What consideration was given to the cemeteries themselves?

Bingo! Or the make up of the neighborhood or church membership?

[Albion Wilde]

Data on bone and dental changes of the 145 individuals from East Smithfield emergency plague cemetery, St Mary Graces and St Mary Spital formed the basis of the study. It found there were significantly higher proportions of people of colour and those of Black African descent in plague burials compared to non-plague burials.

Oh, holy crap. This presupposes that the native white population all buried their plague dead to the same percentage of white vs POC population in these utility graveyards rather than their own properties or other churchyards. This is faulty sixth-grade logic.

[Organic Panic]

Wait a second.... According to transcultists gender is a social construct and can’t be determined by skeletons. Did these “scientists” assume the gender of these victims? Did the skeletons also assume race? Intersectionality......

[HamiltonJay]

So 145 random graves dug up in 1 cemetery have higher percentage of blacks than the general population of London at the time…. Must be racism. Could not possibly be any other reason…

Like oh I don’t know, socioeconomic makeup of that neighborhood, the random happenstance of the 145 bodies exhumed isnt an accurate representation of thr overall bodies buried… etc etc etc

Nope, racism… drop mic.

[kiryandil]

"We have met Wakanda, and it is Merry Old England."

Scrooge and Bob Cratchit were black,, and so was tiny Tim.

[FLT-bird]

Uhhh how many Black people were in London at the time? Is it more than can be counted on the fingers of a single hand?

[ladyjane]

How can they conclude it was because of racism? They have zero evidence it was racism. Surely these archeologists must have had a class in research design, logic or epidemiology. There is evidence that races differ in how susceptible they are to different disease.

Whatever these woke folks blame on others - it’s projection. They project their own racism onto others.

[SunkenCiv]

• Have an Autoimmune Disease? Blame the Black Death [11/15/2023]

[hanamizu]

There is a movie, The Lavender Hill mob, starring Alec Guinness, shot in 1951. There are lots of shots of really crowded London streets. Not a black face to be seen.

[Billthedrill]

145 out of 35,000...wow. I had a statistics professor one time who used to haul stuff like this in front of his class as a reason everyone should take statistics - it helps you know when you’re being lied to.

[Pontiac]

Actually there would have been Moores in Britain at the time as there was trade between Moorish Spain and Britain at the time. Spain would be occupied by the Moores (partly) for another 100 years

They would have been few in Britain at the time, they would have been mostly transient and they would have been free men.

And certainly there would have been few if any in British cemeteries because they would not have been Christian. A non-Christian would never have been burned in a British cemeteries at the time.

[Robert DeLong]

Good point, you need to address those very questions to the ones who did the study. 😋 👍

[Drew68]

The legends tell of a Moorish knight of the Round Table, Morien; to wind up in the legends, they were not unknown or all despised in England.

The number of Moors in 14th Century England were likely no more than a fraction of 1% of the population. There were no Asians in 14th Century England.

The notion that medieval England was a racially diverse society is a recent modern construct, propped up by bogus, pseudoscience meant to install among young people a false perception that Britain has always been multicultural.

It's simply not true. And this fakery is not happening in just Britain, but all over modern Europe.

[Jamestown1630]

I’m not sure where you get ‘Asians’.

‘South Asia’ means something different to Brits than it may to US.

[Drew68]

I’m not sure where you get ‘Asians’. ‘South Asia’ means something different to Brits than it may to US.

I know that. I'm not stupid.

There were no South Asians in 14th Century England.

[Jamestown1630]

Well, what does that have to do with Black Africans in Britain in the Middle Ages?

You don’t think that the Romans had brought a lot there?