Posted on 12/18/2023 4:26:10 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Those figures were pre-war. Assuming the median income has not changed much (salaries stable), it does not really matter, though. You can look at it in dollars or rubles.
There is great fluctuation in salaries and cost of living there, just as here. Much higher cost of living in big cities (like New York, San Francisco, Moscow, St. Petersburg) vs. smaller towns, and “flyover country”, but also much higher salaries.
Cost of living in Tomsk (mid range) you can change it to rubles if you wish):
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/tomsk?currency=USD
Cost of living in Moscow (highest range and most overpriced city in Russia by far):
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/moscow?currency=USD
Note this site is geared toward expats, so they give prices for furnished apartments (way more expensive) in areas of the city expats would prefer, etc., so some costs are way inflated compared to what an ordinary Russian would pay.
Eating out is comparatively more expensive than eating at home there than here. Russians don’t eat out at restaurants very often, but do go eat salted fish and drink Baltica at the corner watering hole now and then. Which is cheap.
Western style amenities are expensive.
What in the world are you blabbering about? I would have assumed there would have been someone appointed to ensure that you stay on your meds.
True dat. Yes, they are nice, but are they worth the trade-off?
Color me old, but when I was growing up, eating out was rare and a huge treat. Even a soft drink was a big deal treat.
We kids hoed nd weeded and picked veggies in the veggie garden out back and did not get bored during summer vacation — and gladly helped our Moms can tomatoes and make pickles, etc., dreaming of how delicious those pickles and spiced pickled peaches would be come winter. We got to have fun, too, ride all over on our bikes, go fishing, play kick the can, etc. We picked wild blackberries with great motivation (even during thunderstorms) knowing our mothers would make cobbler out of them. Sweet memories!
And, oh yeah, we had to rake leaves in the fall instead of Daddy paying Guatamalans to do that. And we did that for elderly and widowed neighbors, too, because neighborliness was still valued back then.
And I’m talking what would now be called “privileged” kids. Our fathers were scientists, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, etc. Our mothers were what are now called “stay at home mothers”. We did not have all the modern “amenities” like a TV in every bedroom, frequent stops at the fast food joint, etc., didn’t guzzle soft drinks every day. But we had fun and happy childhoods, and we learned a thing or two.
All that is gone now 😐 So sad.
Was the translation not good?
You are walking around suggesting that Russia is not a third world crap hole once you get 10 miles outside of Leningrad or Moscow.
They are so I stupid, they kill their chickens instead of keeping them and eating eggs for free.
When are they getting to Kiev again?
I get that you hate Russians. Oksy. But you know this how?
“They are so I stupid, they kill their chickens instead of keeping them and eating eggs for free.”
Pretty sure he meant to right "I is stupid"...
He's angry that with the collapse of Project Ukraine, he's going to have to be eating a lot of his posts from over the last year and a half.
He's getting in a few more hits on the Russians with his little bumper car of hate before that happens.
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