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US Accused of Starting a Color Revolution in Serbia
The Independent Sentinel ^ | December 25, 2023 | M Dowling

Posted on 12/25/2023 9:55:25 AM PST by Navy Patriot

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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The Axes of Evil was the most poorly thought out label in history. It basically told Iran and the Norks they had better develop nukes if they didn’t want to get invaded like Iraq. Which they both proceeded to do.


61 posted on 12/26/2023 2:18:14 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: Mariner
When FDR, Truman or Kennedy used the word, democracy, that was descriptive of a popularly elected government restrained by a constitution, in contrast to fascism or Communism. Even so, all three bent the Constitution at times and Kennedy manipulated the electoral process in Illinois and Texas to assure his election.

When the Clintons, Obama, or Biden use the word, democracy, their definition is closer to that of the Soviet bloc 1948-1990. Not full bore socialism, but authoritarian rule with repression of dissent, harassment of opponents, and imposition of a godless ideology on all public institutions.

62 posted on 12/26/2023 2:44:26 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Mariner
When FDR, Truman or Kennedy used the word, democracy, that was descriptive of a popularly elected government restrained by a constitution, in contrast to fascism or Communism. Even so, all three bent the Constitution at times and Kennedy manipulated the electoral process in Illinois and Texas to assure his election.

When the Clintons, Obama, or Biden use the word, democracy, their definition is closer to that of the Soviet bloc 1948-1990. Not full bore socialism, but authoritarian rule with repression of dissent, harassment of opponents, and imposition of a godless ideology on all public institutions.

63 posted on 12/26/2023 2:44:27 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: unread
Our sorry-ass government will spent billions to defend the borders and stand for fair elections in other countries but does NOTHING to defend our own nation.

Now you're catching on.

64 posted on 12/26/2023 4:35:53 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: RandFan; Chad C. Mulligan
Chad C thinks USA should spread democracy and be the policeman of the world.

More accurately, he thinks the USA should spread Mob Rule Homo-Pedo-Trans Degeneracy and be the Socialist Nazi enforcement Thug of the world.

That's what Color Revolutions and Regime Change is all about.

65 posted on 12/26/2023 4:50:42 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

The medical Latin term for that condition is Coprolalia.


66 posted on 12/26/2023 5:00:47 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Unfortunately, the shoe fits you.


67 posted on 12/26/2023 5:12:42 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

LOL! He didn’t even look it up.


68 posted on 12/26/2023 5:15:45 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Yeah, those evil Americans go supporting democracy again.

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I just wish they supported it in America.


69 posted on 12/26/2023 6:00:28 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yellow vs Purple?


70 posted on 12/26/2023 6:19:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: buwaya

Roosevelt was sick, we were tire of war, and our State Department was infiltrated with leftist garbage.

As it is now.

Toward the end of WWII my father was in Pattons 3rd on East border of Germany (Bavaria) and CZ. They moved 20 miles inside of CZ pursuing a Nazi force connected with the SS Casserne near Bad Tolz, Tegernsee, Bad Wiesee.

They were given orders to pull back and let the Russians take Prague. He never new why.

On this forum a number of years ago, I was told about an old issue with the Russian White Army and the Communists at the end of WWI, A train carrying Czarist gold managed to reach a port city but the town was held by the Communist forces. They made a deal to let the trainload of Czarist soldiers and families to board a boat, but had to leave the gold. They did not find it all and part of it left with the boat. Story is it somehow would up in Prague. So the Russians claimed the Gold in the bank in Prague was theirs.

There is a lot to study about the area around lake Tegernsee and the huge hospital and Nazi officer training facility.

Then dad was sent to Munich. Not long after one of his high school classmates helped lead the liberation of Dachau.

Once a year there is a group here on FR that remembers Serb General Draža Mihailović.

In my mind Yalta was the worst decision made when the war ended.


71 posted on 12/26/2023 8:26:13 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

There was a movie called “Brass Target” that speculated that Patton was murdered because of the gold.


72 posted on 12/26/2023 8:33:14 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

From my memory of the discussion, it was not about a movie.

I doubt I can find the discussion after such a long time.

For the past 8 years, I have made a text file with entries of all subjects I had discussion with and the links.

It is not very well organized, but really helps me backtrack such discussions, if I can remember the correct key words.

Google is now having memory lapses, I think it is intentional.

That is what AI is about. Twisting reality and history.


73 posted on 12/26/2023 8:43:55 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: dfwgator

“Brass Target”

Brass Target is a 1978 American suspense war film based on the 1974 novel The Algonquin Project by Frederick Nolan.

The Algonquin project

https://archive.org/details/algonquinproject0000nola

by
Nolan, Frederick W., 1931-

Publication date
1974

Publisher
New York, Morrow

Collection
inlibrary; printdisabled; internetarchivebooks

Contributor
Internet Archive

Language
English

222 p. 22 cm


74 posted on 12/26/2023 8:49:00 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

The US had a tacit agreement whereby the USSR would stay out of Austria, which would be neutral (but actually in the “western” sphere of influence).

The Soviets however took Vienna and occupied eastern Austria. The US could have taken Prague. Effectively it turned into a swap, Vienna for Prague. The actual communist takeover of Czechoslovakia wasnt till 1948, as it took a Soviet-supported coup to eliminate the non-communist Czech government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Czechoslovak_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

The tacit agreements effect was visible in how it played out with the non-communist Austrian postwar governments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied-occupied_Austria

We were however discussing your assertions with respect to Serbia, not Czechoslovakia. There was no way the western allies could have gotten to Belgrade before the Red Army. Nor Budapest or Warsaw. It was lucky for the Yugoslavs (all of them, Serbs, Croats and etc) that Tito was able to put major Yugoslav units in Belgrade and make it a joint occupation. The Soviets were thus presented with a strong independent force, and were unable to turn the country into a puppet.


75 posted on 12/26/2023 9:45:55 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Texas Fossil

The winners have AWAYS written ‘history’.


76 posted on 12/27/2023 4:15:54 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Texas Fossil; buwaya
Your points are accurate and valuable, particularly:

...our State Department was infiltrated with leftist garbage. As it is now.

Through WWI, Russian Gold bullion was indeed stolen by the Western and Eastern Europe Usual Suspects, except the US.

...there is a group here on FR that remembers Serb General Draža Mihailović.

Well deserved, because of his History, and I am one.

Thanks Texas.

77 posted on 12/27/2023 5:44:03 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot
I have been aware of the Great Suffering of the Serbs for a long time. First read about some of it in the early 1980’s, when I was living in NM. From a magazine that I read at the time.

Have several history books about the Balkans and a couple of history books that are in my library.

And a man who worked for my father in law, served in WWII in the region after the War. He and I had lengthy conversations about that. We had a lot of other things in common. He was a great guy. He was from a Lebanese Christian Family, he spoke fluent Arabic.

But, I am proud to remember General Mihailović.

78 posted on 12/27/2023 6:36:35 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Elsie

True.


79 posted on 12/27/2023 6:37:27 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I miss the excellent and informative discussions about Foreign Nations, their Cultures and Histories (like those of General Mihailović) that used to take place on FR. They used to spread a lot of knowledge suppressed in the Liberal Socialist American MSM since the 1950’s.


80 posted on 12/28/2023 10:56:27 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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