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Bild: Russia may attempt to attack Europe next winter, European intelligence source says
The Kiev Independent via Yahoo ^ | December 25th, 2023 | Dmytro Basmat

Posted on 12/25/2023 11:52:50 AM PST by Mariner

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To: Fiji Hill

Maybe he’ll attack Europe after he does DDay type la dings in Alaska?


41 posted on 12/25/2023 1:31:22 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Mariner

Bild: Russia may attempt to attack Europe next winter, European intelligence source says

Someone is full of it, but go figure.


42 posted on 12/25/2023 1:32:54 PM PST by Saintgermain
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To: Mariner

Russia would do Europe a favor to rid it of the loathesome EU.


43 posted on 12/25/2023 1:36:14 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Mariner
... citing an anonymous European intelligence source.

These "intelligence" people keep trying to run plays from the old cold war playbook. That dog is too old to hunt anymore.

44 posted on 12/25/2023 1:40:58 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Mariner

What? Russia is on the ropes, out of everything, and mostly dead.
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45 posted on 12/25/2023 1:50:13 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Mariner

What transition period? There is none.

Biden remains President with all powers of the office until inauguration day at noon, and the President-elect becomes President immediately thereafter.


46 posted on 12/25/2023 1:58:16 PM PST by FarCenter
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To: Mariner
Bild: Russia may attempt to attack Europe next winter, European intelligence source says

Whatever.

Call Belgium to full mobilization.

47 posted on 12/25/2023 1:59:42 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: Mariner

“Bild: Russia may attempt to attack Europe next winter, European intelligence source says”

With 89% of Russia’s military now destroyed in Ukraine, according to the same source, I have difficulty seeing how effective a Russian attack against Europe could be.


48 posted on 12/25/2023 2:00:49 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Mariner

Why would Putin want to attack the West? He gains nothing from doing so. The Leftist’s fear mongering never stops. They are trapped inside their worn-out playbook.


49 posted on 12/25/2023 2:01:32 PM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual and political hemlock)
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To: Mariner
Bild: Russia may attempt to attack Europe next winter, European intelligence source says.

Anyone remember the constant drone of Iraq having WMDs. It came from Bush/Cheney and news outlets. It turned out to be a complete lie. Now the cynic in me would say that Bush and Cheney directed our intelligence agencies to say what they wanted the public to hear. We all know there was no intention to mislead and all the WMD propaganda was simply a mistake. /s

50 posted on 12/25/2023 2:03:38 PM PST by JesusIsLord ( )
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To: DesertRhino
Took the words right out of my mouth ...

Why now, and not when they had a better chance in the 70s

51 posted on 12/25/2023 2:09:40 PM PST by BlueLancer (Think of it as evolution in action. [Oath of Fealty - Pournelle and Niven])
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To: Mariner
Oh man, these scumbag Youke shills just do not know when the shakedown jig's up.

Ooo! Oooh! Ooooh! RuZZiaa it will attack Europe next! Oooh! OooHHH! You send me in Youcrayne $100 billion now and everything be OK when I buy new villa, yacht and hookers then Hitler V. Putin he no conquer world!

Sorry, Youke/leftist/Scumocrat/RINO/globalist/EU fearmongering grifters, the jig is up and just about everyone knows that now. Give. It. Up.

52 posted on 12/25/2023 2:53:26 PM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Mariner

There’s a lot of people that want you to believe this.


Mostly Russians.


53 posted on 12/25/2023 3:20:44 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BobL

“With 89% of Russia’s military now destroyed in Ukraine, according to the same source, I have difficulty seeing how effective a Russian attack against Europe could be.”

Well, Bob...that’s sooo yesterday.

ISW says we must now tout Russian effectiveness, strength and determination...reflecting their existential threat to Ukraine, Europe and all of Western Civilization.


54 posted on 12/25/2023 4:00:07 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: R0CK3T

I suppose h is going to attack Europe with his ww2 tanks. I don’t think so.


55 posted on 12/25/2023 4:06:01 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Mariner

“ISW says we must now tout Russian effectiveness, strength and determination...reflecting their existential threat to Ukraine, Europe and all of Western Civilization.”

Thanks, didn’t realize that “Russia is collapsing” meme is no longer operative. I guess it served its purpose.


56 posted on 12/25/2023 4:17:14 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Mariner
The German think tank DGAP has issued prior warnings to Western nations, suggesting that Russia might launch a direct attack against NATO in "as little as six to 10 years."

It would take this long for Russia to rebuild to a point they could threaten the Baltics, especially with Finland joining NATO (and soon Sweden, already a defacto NATO ally). Had Russia's invasion of Ukraine gone as expected (a complete collapse and victory within a couple months), they would be much more of a threat. In a subsequent invasion of the Baltics, I think Germany would have folded without a fight. Then France, Spain and Italy, shielded by a thousand kilometers, would also have caved and said "not our concern".

Attacking in 1 year is ridiculous. Russia currently has no capacity to invade NATO, and would be hard pressed to defend themselves against any invasion without abandoning Ukraine or going nuclear. Even the "six to 10 year" time frame only works if Europe reverses its current trend of rearming itself, a possibility which I do not discount.

A weak Europe invites Russian expansion. With a strong Europe, Russia will be limited to conquests in the east. Georgia is certainly at risk, but China might have a say if Russia wants to expand back into the Stans in Central Asia. Of course the wild card is a world war.

57 posted on 12/25/2023 4:24:23 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mariner

There’s a lot of people like you who are conveniently myopic when it comes to Russia having already attacked multiple European states.

And American businesses. And American government departments. And American states.

Thousands of times over the last 20 years. Without retaliation.

Here’s a small sample from the last six months.

November 2023: 22 Danish power companies attacked.

September 2023: Multiple public services and civic infrastructure in Bermuda.

September 2023: International Criminal Court; British Ministry of Defense.

August 2023: Czech banks and stock exchange; Poland’s rail system; public services in Alberta (Canada).

July 2023: New Zealand’s parliament and public sector institutions

June 2023: Multiple European banking institutions; U.S. federal agencies including the Department of Energy.

That’s not even a complete list from the last six months.

Pretty much every month for the last eighteen years Russian hackers have been hitting targets in European countries as well as hitting American institutions.

Here’s a question for you.

America got hit ONCE by the Islamofascists in a big surprise attack that cost 2,996 lives, and the neocons spent ten years literally pounding sand in a “war on terror” as a result.

By contrast, Russia can keep attacking your critical national infrastructure with complete impunity because you’ve not reacted at all - even though the cost of it runs into billions, hospitals on average see a measurable 53% increase in mortality rates when attacked, and the disruption delays / obstructs other treatment by 30%.

Not even when Russia has knocked out healthcare systems right across all of NATO, indirectly causing thousands of deaths, does the USA think that the bear’s poking it enough to get its finger out of its ass and do something useful.

Why is that?


58 posted on 12/25/2023 4:41:03 PM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: MalPearce

No harm to me.
I don’t care.


59 posted on 12/25/2023 4:44:53 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: JesusIsLord

“Anyone remember the constant drone of Iraq having WMDs. It came from Bush/Cheney and news outlets. It turned out to be a complete lie.”

No it didn’t you ass. You are still parroting 20 year old MSM disinformation. Hey, 2006 elections turned Congress D so that lie isn’t in play anymore. Except for GRU/KGB tools.

I was there. I saw the BUA reports on mustard gas IEDs, sarin rockets and 100s of tons of raw Uranium. We took casualties from chemical agent IEDs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-secretly-takes-yellowcake-from-iraq/

It was only a “secret” because the MSM didn’t want to report it.

Biased, lying troll.


60 posted on 12/25/2023 5:08:32 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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