The Dark Side Of Col. Douglas Macgregor, Tucker’s ‘Go-To’ Military Expert

American Thinker ^ | 01/28/2024 | Al Bienenfeld

[nickcarraway]

Okay, well, then what did you mean by post #6.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

What is happening in the Israel/Palestine region seems to me to be analogous to the Hundred Years War. There are two factions that are fighting over the same patch of land. The "war" is not continuous because neither currently has the power to effect its will. So what we see are periods of relative peace disrupted by relatively short bouts of intense fighting.

There are Israelis in high positions on record who would like to create a "greater Israel" that would include the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and all or parts of Gaza. They view those territories as necessary for the expanding Israeli population and as a buffer zone against attack.

There are Palestinians who would like to push all the Israelis into the sea and retake what they claim to be their birthright.

There are moderates on both sides who have ideas either about encouraging Arabs and Jews to live side by side throughout the region, or to create a "two state solution", but so long as there are parties on both sides who don't trust each other and want all the land there will be no compromise deal.

Given that the Arabs have tons of land and the Jews have just a sliver, I lean very much in favor of Israel. I wish Israel were strong enough to create a greater Israel and to be able to deport all of the Arabs who don't wish to be peaceful and productive members of a greater Israel. I wish that the Palestinians could find a permanent home in a new Palestine carved out of western Jordan, southern Gaza and maybe even parts of the Sinai Peninsula.

This might eventually happen, but the Hundred Years War lasted about one hundred years. If we call 1948 the beginning of this newer Middle East Hundred Years War then we have another 15 years to hope for a similar end.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I'm not with MacGregor. I'm with Mearsheimer. He is a realist. He is not a neocon, nor a globalist.

I was a neocon during the neocon Reagan administration, but I wised up after seeing the mess that was made in the second Iraq war.

[A strike]

“aiding Ukraine” is just neocon deepState war bullSchiff to “hurt” Russia ‘cuz they were gonna roll all the way to the Atlantic,... dumb@$$!!
It’s because vampiressVicky has a hair up tween her legs and the WEF must destroy ANY country not willing to submit its’ nationality to world government.
Not sure how that’s going to work out with CommunistChina but they’ll find a way.

[nickcarraway]

Well, please elaborate then, because what you are saying is confusing.

Please explain this to me: The people you talk about who are critical of Israel, for it's treatment of Muslims. Those same people ever criticize Israel for it's treatment of Muslims, never criticize China for it's treatment of Muslims. In fact, they go to great lengths to hide it. But not even the most fanatical Hamas supporter could reasonably claim that what is happening in Gaza is as bad as what is happening in China. The population of Muslims in China is probably almost five times as many as Palestinians. And they are torturing them, enslaving them and killing them.

And those same people who criticize Israel never mention how Myanmar is killing and oppressing Muslims.

And they certainly don't mention how Muslims countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, And Egypt are oppressing and killing Muslims.

So explain to me how these people only think it's bad when Jews might be killing Muslims (Even if it's in self defense), but when anyone else does it it's not worthy of notice.

You need to explain this riddle to me.

[cowboyusa]

I would disagree with Reagan being Neo- Con. He did not get involved with any big wars. He invaded Grenada quickly, deposed the Pro- Soviet Dictator, and got out. He also got out of a complete mess in Lebenon. His fp was the same as President Trump’s.

[ifinnegan]

This Cyrus Janssen guy is a moon bat.

[piasa]

Tucker’s always been a Trojan Horse, and McGregor’s a mouthpiece for the Russians...if memory serves he is attached at the hip to the gang from VIPS, what used to be known as the John Kerry fan club.

[piasa]

That is what he was before he joined Fox. He’s like a dog, returning to its vomit.

[piasa]

There are members of the IDF who pander to Palestinians just like the activist left does inside our military, CIA, FBI, etc..

[Ultra Sonic 007]

What I meant is what I wrote: that one can criticize aspects of America’s foreign policy vis-a-vis Israel without being “anti-Jewish”.

After all, there are plenty of Jews who think we support Israel too much (including a particular class of ultra-orthodox Jews who oppose the existence of the State of Israel for purely religious reasons), and some who think we don’t support Israel enough.

Personally, I think the conflict won’t receive a satisfactory end unless both the Israelis and Palestinians convert en masses to Christianity. Given that that’s not likely to happen anytime soon, we’re left with the aftermath of the British and the French mucking up the Middle East when dismembering the Ottoman Empire after WWI.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

McGRegor is a wacko on foreign policy. Much of what he says or claims is simply wrong or biased.

Carlson had an other MacGregor-like go to on the Soviet Union, Prof. Stephen F? Cohen of Princeton. He was not only a disinformation voice for the Soviet Union, but he had all the earmarks of a Soviet agent.

He wrote for his wife’s longtime MARXIST rag, “The Nation”. Carlson swore by him despite his blatantly pro—Soviet proclamations.

[nickcarraway]

What is happening in the Israel/Palestine region seems to me to be analogous to the Hundred Years War.

I studies European history, and I don't agree with that at all.

There are Israelis in high positions on record who would like to create a "greater Israel" that would include the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and all or parts of Gaza.

Do you actually know the history. A group of countries surrounding Israel, and which had populations that dwarfed Israel decided to invade Israel in 1967 and 1973. Everyone thought they would wallop Israel. But instead, the group got their but kicked and lost some of their land. Egypt was scared to ever get in a war with Israel again, because they were scared of losing more territory.

Something tells me that if any other country in the world invaded another country, and they got their butt kicked and lost territory, you wouldn't be calling for international welfare to make the invader whole. Would you?

Should the U.S. give Wake Island, and the Philippines back to Japan?

Should we have given taken away a belt from Buster Douglas, because he had "no right" to knock Mike Tyson.

Personally, I think if one country invades another country, especially with such a numeric advantage, and loses, well, that's too bad. I don't agree with the globalist welfare system you are advocating for.

If Israel lost in 1967 and 1973, would you be arguing the U.S. should force the coalition to act like they lost?

And this all started, because the Israelis were given and indefensible strip of land in 1947, surrounded by a billion enemies. The U.N. set up Israel to fail. Oops, they won, despite being in a militarily untenable position.

Should the U.S. go in and invade Israel, because it's "not fair?"

And by the way, the world has given $40 billion to a group in Israel that is a proxy of Iran, whose sole purpose is to destroy Israel. How do you explain that?

Oh, and one other thing: Twenty-some years ago, Bill Clinton strong armed Ehud Barak into offering a two state solution that gave the Palestinians everything they wanted. This offer would probably mean the end of Israel, at some point. But the Palestinians still rejected it, and resumed terrorism.

So in summary, is the only "moral" thing Israel could do kill itself?

[nickcarraway]

What I meant is what I wrote: that one can criticize aspects of America’s foreign policy vis-a-vis Israel without being “anti-Jewish”.

Okay, many people criticize some aspect. I criticize Israel's handling of Jonathan Pollard. And I also criticize U.S. foreign policy vis-a-vis Israel, because we gave billions to Arafat, who did not operate in good faith, and we forced Israel into things that were not in their, or our own, intertest.

But that's just normal, and no one is criticizing such people. Find me one person who is saying that is antisemitic.

But people like McGregor, Carlson, AOC, Chomksy, CAIR, etc. aren't like that. They think everything Israel does is wrong, and everything their enemies is wrong.

And it's been proven over and over again, Hamas is not a reliable source.

Wghy is Carlson on the same side as college progressive mobs, and ANTIFA?

[Texas Fossil]

“And the charge that Tucker has veered to the “anti-Christian left” is even more bizarre.”

Totally agree.

[linMcHlp]

Twenty-some years ago, Bill Clinton strong armed Ehud Barak into offering a two state solution that gave the Palestinians everything they wanted. This offer would probably mean the end of Israel, at some point. But the Palestinians still rejected it, and resumed terrorism.

bkmk

[Vehmgericht]

Is it anti-Semitic to point out that Jews have a disproportionate influence on the media and foreign policy? Do Israelis exaggerate Hamas atrocities? Youbetcha. Does Hamas exaggerate Israeli crimes? Likewise. It appears that Hamas is winning the propaganda war.
High-ranking Israeli officials, including Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, and Energy Minister Israel Katz have made public statements expressing their aim to starve the civilian population of Gaza and deprive them of water and fuel. Arguments in support of either side need to be viewed with a large amount of skepticism. If you want to discredit someone or their argument, call them racist or anti-Semitic. “He’s like a dog, returning to its vomit,” is not a convincing argument.
By killing women and children the IDF has acted as the best recruiter Hamas could hire. The argument about needing “a buffer zone against attack” sounds an awful lot like a need for Lebensraum. It might be best to avoid that argument. This war will never end. Like the Ukrainian conflict the only lasting result will be the deaths of millions. It is quite possible that “The globalists, and WEF, are actually supporting both sides.” No one wins.

[nickcarraway]

Exactly.

[nickcarraway]

“The globalists, and WEF, are actually supporting both sides.”

I made that point earlier in the thread.

[Texas Fossil]

Thank you for posting, the author is very credible.

Al Bienenfeld :

The Logic of the Rational Mind: What we’ve learned-and haven’t learned-from the last 100 years
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-logic-of-the-rational-mind-al-bienenfeld/1126239987

Caravan to Midnight
https://caravantomidnight.com/al-bienenfeld/
AL Bienenfeld Biography: Born November 5, 1953 in Baltimore, MD. Parents - Henry and Helen Bienenfeld, Polish Jews, Holocaust Survivors, both came to America in 1948. Father deceased - 2013, Mother deceased - 2016. Raised in Philadelphia, Education - University of Pittsburgh 1971-75, Civil Engineering.

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