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Putin: Ukrainian coup put country on collision course with Russia years before invasion
The Washington Times ^ | Feb 8, 2024 | David R. Sands

Posted on 02/08/2024 4:30:10 PM PST by McGruff

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To: dforest

Yep!


61 posted on 02/08/2024 7:35:59 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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To: dforest

I wish Tucker had brought that up.


62 posted on 02/08/2024 7:36:43 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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To: dforest
I was in Donbas in 2012, as a visitor.

Russia was pouring in "little green men", weapons and agitators, then, well before the "coup".

The "coup" was just an excuse.

An internal Ukraine problem, anyhow. Why is it Russia's business?

We had a coup in 2020.

Would you be okay if Russia invaded Alaska?

It was their's once, anyhow.

63 posted on 02/08/2024 7:49:04 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

You bought the lies of the deep state hook, line, and sinker.


64 posted on 02/08/2024 7:59:33 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Your attempts to compare the Maidan to J6 are sad and pathetic

Is that the new narrative they’ve given you to post today?


65 posted on 02/08/2024 8:01:02 PM PST by PGR88
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To: McGruff

Right, right. Ukraine invaded itself. The West “blocked” Russia from not invading in the first place and “blocked” them from withdrawing and forced them to stay.

And people actually defend this nonsense?


66 posted on 02/08/2024 9:59:41 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: dforest

Russia has been sending operatives into Ukraine to destabilize it for years.

Ukraine didn’t invade itself - did you transpose the country’s names?


67 posted on 02/08/2024 10:01:51 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240209-putin-says-russian-defeat-in-ukraine-impossible-in-rare-us-interview

In a two-hour interview with the former Fox News host – coming just ahead of the two-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine – Putin also said a deal “can be reached” on imprisoned Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich.

“Certain terms being discussed via special services channels,” he said, while insisting that the reporter is a spy – something the Journal and US government vehemently deny.

It was the first one-on-one interview of Putin by someone from the Western media since 2019.

However Carlson, who is close to White House candidate and former president Donald Trump, asked few tough questions and largely listened while the Kremlin leader lectured him on his views of Russian history, portraying the country as a victim of Western betrayals.

Putin defended his decision to invade Ukraine in February 2022. And he said the West now realises that Russia will not be defeated, despite US, European and NATO help to Ukraine.

“Up until now, there has been the uproar and screaming about inflicting a strategic defeat to Russia on the battlefield. But now they are apparently coming to realise that it is difficult to achieve, if possible, at all. In my opinion, it is impossible by definition,” he said.

He also aimed a message at the US Congress, where Trump-dominated Republicans are increasingly reluctant to keep backing Ukraine with weapons and other military aid.

“I will tell you what we are saying on this matter and what we are conveying to the US leadership. If you really want to stop fighting, you need to stop supplying weapons,” he said.

When asked if Moscow would consider invading other countries in the region – NATO members Poland and Latvia – or generally across the European continent, Putin said that was “out of the question.”

“We have no interest in Poland, Latvia or anywhere else. Why would we do that? We simply don’t have any interest. It’s just threat mongering,” Putin said.

A war with Poland, he said, would happen “only in one case: if Poland attacks Russia.”


68 posted on 02/08/2024 11:31:49 PM PST by Texan4Life
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To: McGruff

Trump’s fault...


69 posted on 02/09/2024 1:19:43 AM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦..."Christian-Nationalists" won WWII...Biden NOT NEXT DNC nominee!)
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To: Eagles6

I don’t support our involvement in Ukraine.

I do care when my own country is invaded. I would not expect Ukraine to pay for it and the government and pensions of people in my country.

We only pay all of that because the nitwits in charge of the US wanted, and still do, a war with Russia. I see no proof that weapons were in the Donbas prior to the coup. That said, the US was meddling in Ukraine prior to the coup and the video I am speaking of is proof.


70 posted on 02/09/2024 5:04:49 AM PST by dforest
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To: Republican Wildcat

You have nothing to show for proof. Victoria Nuland was there to start a color revolution. That is fact an everyone who pays attention knows it.


71 posted on 02/09/2024 5:08:35 AM PST by dforest
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To: Reverend Wright

So, in other words you are not going to confront terrorism and rotten Islamic regimes. They were defeated and these wars were ended. Unfortunately, the Taliban and others may be back in power. But that does not mean they are going to start another war. And if they do start another war with us then we will have to respond again. By your way of thinking we should not have fought ww2 and allowed the nazis to take over since ww1 was failed since Germany started another one.

We will defend our country and our people and our way of life against all enemies. We will bare any burden and do what is right because it is right. The 5 trillion in fighting these wars were no more a waste than spending the money in ww2 to defend against evil.


72 posted on 02/09/2024 7:42:32 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

“So, in other words you are not going to confront terrorism and rotten Islamic regimes. “


Worried about terrorism in America ?

Close the border.

The NeoCons will fight endless wars around the world. But won’t do the basics of security.


73 posted on 02/09/2024 9:16:47 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

So, you don’t think Islamic terrorism was something to be dealt wit? You think that we should just allow Terrorists to hijack planes and fly them into buildings with mass American casualties? Like you I am concerned about the border, but, that does not mean we should not deal with our foreign enemies. That would be a big mistake.


74 posted on 02/09/2024 9:48:12 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

“...just allow Terrorists to hijack planes and fly them into buildings with mass American casualties? “


Then close the border and ban moslems.

Right now, the US border is open while eternal wars go on everywhere else.

In March 2002, the immigration and Naturalization Service sent Mohammad Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi their flight school visas. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, Bin Laden was allowed to escape.

The US Gov’t has been a incompetent Globalist Ass-Clown operation for decades.

https://www.cnn.com/2002/US/03/12/inv.flight.school.visas/


75 posted on 02/09/2024 10:13:37 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

You cannot ban anyone because of religion you know that full well. Terrorists can always find a way to enter. It is by stopping the foreign governments and other actors that facilitate them and showing them the results of what happens when they sponsor and commit terror is the way stop it. As you can see that has been pretty successful as we do not see the same type attacks coming at us now.


76 posted on 02/09/2024 11:01:22 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone; All

” Terrorists can always find a way to enter. It is by stopping the foreign governments and other actors that facilitate them and showing them the results of what happens when they sponsor and commit terror is the way stop it.”


The NeoCon argument: it is impossible to close the border, so let’s have endless futile foreign wars, instead.


77 posted on 02/09/2024 11:05:02 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

We can close the borders against criminals and others. We can lower crime and welfare state and Democrat would be voters. But, a determined and aggressive country or well monetarily supported other actor will find ways to get in. It is by smashing them and hitting them hard that they will cease to do that. No, I do not support open borders and anyone who says that does not know me or who I am.


78 posted on 02/09/2024 11:32:58 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Reverend Wright

We can close the borders against criminals and others. We can lower crime and welfare state and Democrat would be voters. But, a determined and aggressive country or well monetarily supported other actor will find ways to get in. It is by smashing them and hitting them hard that they will cease to do that. No, I do not support open borders and anyone who says that does not know me or who I am.


79 posted on 02/09/2024 11:33:45 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

“But, a determined and aggressive country or well monetarily supported other actor will find ways to get in. It is by smashing them and hitting them hard that they will cease to do that. “


In 2001, the USA was attacked by Saudis. And the response was to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, while leaving the border open.


80 posted on 02/09/2024 11:40:24 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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