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California’s war on plastic bag use seems to have backfired. Lawmakers are trying again
https://news.yahoo.com/californias-war-plastic-bag-seems-110054347.html ^

Posted on 02/12/2024 4:38:37 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III

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To: McGavin999
"Eventually your shopping trips will be limited to what you can carry in your arms."

You can utilize the wheel barrel that you used to carry the hyper inflated currency for your purchases.


21 posted on 02/12/2024 5:23:48 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: ifinnegan
But what is the backfire part?

The $0.10/bag charge doesn't change behavior. People still go grocery shopping and use as many bags as they need just like they used to do.

Nobody reuses them because people don't really carry around extra bags with them.

The new bags are literally five times as thick as the old plastic grocery bags. If you've never seen one, try to imagine the thick, high quality plastic bags you'd get from a high-end retailer or the duty-free shops at the airport. That's what a dime gets you at Vons or Walmart in California.

22 posted on 02/12/2024 5:24:31 PM PST by Drew68
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To: McGavin999

And they are ever trying to disarm us.


23 posted on 02/12/2024 5:25:07 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I'm a nationalist. I'm white. How does that make me racist?)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
The backfire part is that more plastic bags are being used than before the supposed plastic bag ban. The thin plastic bags have been replaced by thicker ones.

And larger ones.

When at our cottage, we can take the trash out every couple days to the dumpster instead of letting it sit and rot inside. Using the grocery store bags is using FAR less plastic that way.

24 posted on 02/12/2024 5:25:24 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Thanks, you beat me to it.


25 posted on 02/12/2024 5:25:32 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Remember when they started plastic bags? It was because all the paper bags were killing trees. So they made us feel guilty about that. And now the plastic bags are worse.


26 posted on 02/12/2024 5:26:36 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ifinnegan

They backfired because they make the plastic bags much thicker, supposedly to be re-used over and over by the customer. However, most aren’t reused, and so more plastic goes into the environment. In addition, because they are thicker they degrade/dissolve even more slowly.


27 posted on 02/12/2024 5:28:06 PM PST by norcal joe
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To: SomeCallMeTim

...they don’t really harm the environment.

Plus they sequester a lot of carbon. A mole of polyethylene is 75% Carbon safely tucked away forever in a landfill or by the side of the road.


28 posted on 02/12/2024 5:32:40 PM PST by JeanLM
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To: End Times Sentinel

I have so maby of the plastic grocery bags in my car and at home.. its become a joke. but the stores offer paper bags as well


29 posted on 02/12/2024 5:35:16 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

One word . . .


30 posted on 02/12/2024 5:38:46 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

GEE Just like Murphy’s in New Jerksy. What will they think up next? NO MORE BAGS PEASANTS. USE YOUR POCKETS.


31 posted on 02/12/2024 5:40:17 PM PST by ZULU (DUMP RONA ROMNEY MCDANIELS!!!)
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To: McGavin999

“Eventually your shopping trips will be limited to what you can carry in your arms.”

Maybe we should all take our suitcases to the store; they have wheels on them to make them easier to move around . . .


32 posted on 02/12/2024 5:55:40 PM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: JeanLM

lol never thought about that. genius!


33 posted on 02/12/2024 6:00:44 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: metmom

They are a staple here-trash can liners, carrying stuff around like small tools I’m using, carrying/throwing away trash like paper, etc, for carrying out veggie and fruit scraps I put out for the wildlife, and every day I use a couple of them when cleaning out the cats’ litter boxes. Not single use at all...


34 posted on 02/12/2024 6:06:08 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to sadldle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...")
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To: Celtic Conservative

“Iron Eyes” Cody.


35 posted on 02/12/2024 6:08:22 PM PST by desertsolitaire
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To: Vendome

Ugh! Or as they say in Italian, “Uffa!”


36 posted on 02/12/2024 6:14:23 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Vendome

Ugh! or as they say in Italian, “Uffa!”


37 posted on 02/12/2024 6:15:24 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III
The degrade rather quickly in the desert.

A couple of years and they shred into little pieces, then ... nothing. The desert sun and air degrades plastic bags to nothing.

Petroleum based plastics are high energy molecules, like wood. It gradually oxidizes. It does it much faster in the desert at high temperatures...

38 posted on 02/12/2024 6:24:57 PM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Thanks.


39 posted on 02/12/2024 6:38:26 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Gen.Blather
Did you know it’s against the law in Florida to burn anything that is not “natural” wood?

I'm here in the San Francisco Bay Area of California. My next-door neighbor burns everything in his fireplace. I often smell plastics being burned. He'll collect pressure-treated exterior wood and burn it (laden with toxic chemicals). He even burns on so-called no-burn days (smog control rules). He gets a pass due to a loophole where he says the fireplace is his only source of heat because his furnace is broken. Right, "broken" for 40 years. Laws are broken everywhere.

40 posted on 02/12/2024 6:40:16 PM PST by roadcat
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