Posted on 02/14/2024 10:40:58 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
IMO, these things quickly become self-sustaining, self-enriching scams. The “climate change business” is probably several hundred billion a year (maybe a lot more) and produces NOTHING of any value whatsoever.
Government pays scientists to get the “right” answer that government wants. The government “invests” in companies producing bogus solutions to the problem that the government-paid scientists investigated.
Everything is a self-perpetuating scam.
Toxic fluoride gas emissions from lithium-ion battery fires
If the area loses power in a natural disaster, you can get a gas station’s pumps operating with a small generator. Good luck being able to charge an EV.
Think again...
Fire not the only danger with lithium-ion batteries
"The toxicity of gases given off from any given lithium-ion battery differ from that of a typical fire and can themselves vary but all remain either poisonous or combustible, or both. They can feature high percentages of hydrogen, and compounds of hydrogen, including hydrogen fluoride, hydrogen chloride and hydrogen cyanide, as well as carbon monoxide, sulphur dioxide and methane among other dangerous chemicals."
"In terms of hazards to the wellbeing of those in the vicinity of such an incident, one particularly problematic component is hydrogen fluoride (HF). Although HF is lighter than air and would disperse when released, a cloud of vapor and aerosol that is heavier than air may be formed (EPA 1993). On exposure to skin or by inhaling, HF can result in skin burns and lung damage that can take time (hours to weeks) to develop following exposure. HF will be quickly absorbed by the body via skin and lungs depleting vital calcium and magnesium levels in tissues, which can result in severe and possibly fatal systemic effects. The hydrogen content of the released gases can give rise to vapour cloud explosion risks which have the potential to cause significant damage."
As long as it doesn’t produce CO2 the Starbuck wives are good with it.
Honestly, I don't know the best way to store them -- I can't keep them out in a small shed, since NH winters get quite cold, and I heard these batteries become unstable in extreme heat or cold conditions.
Any Freeper advice would be appreciated regarding storage.... other than tossing them out. 😅
Has anyone researched what sitting on a 1 ton battery does to the human body?
Interesting question. I’ve been thinking about that.
I have mower batteries, have considered storing them in a metal chest, or perhaps a clothes dryer (obviously removing them when drying clothes). I never leave them in the mower for the reasons you cite.
I also have 3 phones and one flashlight.
Even small batteries can cause big fires under the right circumstances.
Thanks for the info re the toxic gaseous emissions. Sounds like people will be exposed to what the WW I troops experienced in the trenches.
How’s that for “progress”?
I’ve got the exact same concern. My wife has a Trek e-bike with a Bosch battery / charger system. I have a battery-powered Ryobi snowblower and a leaf blower.
I’m concerned about them starting to bulge and fail when in storage and I don’t observe them.
Like you, I don’t want to store them outside in an unconditioned shed. But I sure as hell don’t want them in my house.
Advice needed!
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Complex Electromagnetic Issues Associated with the Use of Electric Vehicles in Urban Transportation
By Krzysztof Gryz, Jolanta Karpowicz, and Patryk Zradziński
NIH, National Library of Medicine, National Center for Biotechnology Information
Vent caps on modern (since at least the 1980s) lead-acid batteries are of the flame-arresting type.
Lead-acid batteries CAN explode internally. This happens when the electrolyte is low and one of the plates or bus bars cracks, causing a spark. This will result in the vent caps being blown off. I have only seen this happen once. It happened while cranking the engine. Low electrolyte was the cause, or at least what allowed the spark to ignite the hydrogen vapors. If it’s submerged in electrolyte there is no spark that will ignite anything.
“If it’s submerged in electrolyte there is no spark that will ignite anything.”
Unless the battery is venting H2 during charge and you hook jumper cables to the battery terminals.
Another idea - store them inside my wood stove, when the stove's not in use.
One freeper suggested storing them inside metal Ammo boxes, or wrap them in welder's fire proof blankets.
I just ordered two large ammo cans, and also some welder's blankets. I plan to cut up a blanket and wrap each battery with a piece, put then them inside the ammo box. Then, I'll wrap a big blanket around each box - and set the boxes inside my fire place (after winter). That is my plan anyway. If they decide to explode for some reason - guess I'm doomed. 😬)
These the same scientists who declared the Vax safe?
“Everything is a self-perpetuating scam.”
Especially since, as we have observed, most of the people in government are 100% corrupt and self-serving... vs. willing to serve the people, as they are supposed to be doing. The scant few that are not corrupt are outnumbered, outflanked and outgunned. Hence, why we’re circling the proverbial “drain” as we speak.
Since most of these batteries are made in China, they could release a hack or EMP especially designed to ignite these things.
If the Chinese military has NOT thought of this, they are not doing a very good job at unrestricted warfare...
Yes, I was referring to how proper electrolyte levels prevent an internal battery explosion.
The flame arresting vent caps keep an external flame from igniting hydrogen inside the battery. They’re actually patented and I once found and read the patent.
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