Posted on 03/04/2024 11:45:04 AM PST by Conservat1
I mean this as sincerely as I can-
debating degrees of barbarism when you fully admit the gravity of what took place is a fool’s folly.
Were you fooled by the Food for Oil Programme was not corrupt and the only three nations on earth voting against the war were making billions of dollars from it unlawfully? Were you fooled into Saddam not constantly violating UN sanctions over four different POTUS administrations? Prob not, just fooled over WMD as the heinous atrocities of the Hussein regime and the corrupted UN programs are now matters of public record.
I choose option #3-not being an apologist monkey for heinous barbarism.
Hold on…..you still believe that the war in Iraq was a good idea and fought for good reasons?
That level of propaganda tolerance is incredible.
Let me guess….You support the war in Ukraine and got vaccinated too, right?
Of course everyone cheated the sanctions in Iraq. That is the purpose of sanctions. They are for the purpose of enriching those who are in a position to benefit from them. That is the same purpose for all the half-measure wars we fight.
The people who get us into wars are not stupid. They don’t look at every war we have been in since WW2, see that every one went badly for us and decide that we need to keep doing it over and over for the benefit of our nation.
Instead they see how much money their friends have made off of them and keep finding new ones to get into.
Hold on.......the only wrong propaganda was WMD.
Largely the rest was entirely on target while you wail over propaganda.
Let me guess....despite Biden energy policy enriching Russia and Iran to invade. Putin doing the same in 2014 off spiking oil prices in 2013-neither war has anything to do with the US.
US world supremacy is at an all time high. 9/11’s didn’t occur every other year as promised yet all US foreign policy is propaganda based and the 72 TD fav has lost every war since WWII-you’re castigating me for buying into propaganda.
Despite them warring to enrich themselves and not caring whom wins or loses has resulted in: Russia being the size 1 1/2 NY state economically, Northern and Western Europe being indefensible to a large swarm of gnats and Asia being as toothless has ever. The US is able to run up $200,000,000,000,000 in debt/unfunded liabilities without a replacement for the USD even yet existing.
The truth is always in the middle. As long as you want to stick to one polar side or the other, you will continue being wrong.
Which is all immaterial to your diminishing the barbarism that we all saw in HD.
So, the only thing that was wrong was the only explicit justification they used for going to war?
Largely the rest was entirely on target while you wail over propaganda.
Give me an example of something that justified the death of 1 million people and 10's of thousands of US soldiers.
Let me guess....despite Biden energy policy enriching Russia and Iran to invade. Putin doing the same in 2014 off spiking oil prices in 2013-neither war has anything to do with the US.
I don't know what you are talking about. The Ukraine war has everything to do with the US. Our CIA led a coup there in 2014.
US world supremacy is at an all time high. 9/11’s didn’t occur every other year as promised yet all US foreign policy is propaganda based and the 72 TD fav has lost every war since WWII-you’re castigating me for buying into propaganda.
Despite them warring to enrich themselves and not caring whom wins or loses has resulted in: Russia being the size 1 1/2 NY state economically, Northern and Western Europe being indefensible to a large swarm of gnats and Asia being as toothless has ever. The US is able to run up $200,000,000,000,000 in debt/unfunded liabilities without a replacement for the USD even yet existing.
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you believe this is good or what you are trying to say. This can't be right but are you trying to say that our huge debt is a sign of our STRENGTH????
Which is all immaterial to your diminishing the barbarism that we all saw in HD.
I'm curious to know how much of the barbarism you have seen "in HD" since 10/7? Have you seen the dead Palestinian children? Have you seen the video of the 12 year old boy crying to the camera telling how his cousin's head was crushed in front of him?
The barbarism that occurred on 10/7 is completely dwarfed by the barbarism that has occurred since. The only difference is that I support none of it and you do support some of it. And my country is funding it against my will.
I notice you didn't mention if you took the vax. How many boosters did you end up getting? When are you due for your next one? You better make sure to listen to the TV so you know what to do next.
All the rest of the propaganda was on target.
Suggested reading: Ancient Art of War.
Exactly, you don’t know what I’m talking about.
Russia’s economy is oil & gas.
Putin was crying under Trump for global oil production cuts.
Putin funded some of the anti fracking campaign in this country.
He could not afford to threaten a swarm of gnats.
In 2013 oil spiked to $140/bbl
In 2021 oil doubled thanks to Biden energy policy.
Both times bought and paid for his invasions.
While you go on about some fantastical conspiracies, you completely miss that both Russia and Iran are harmless without climatescam energy money.
Again, you don’t know what I am talking about-our debt and ability to still borrow at 4% (Putin is currently at 16% btw) with no successor to the dollar even existing iks obviously a sign of strength.
It’s nice that you find sympathy with an entity that targets civilians. Just continue down the morally bankru8pt path of the Palestinians as victims.
I omitted the vax on purpose as I couldn’t find the total billions of shots dispensed and yet no change in the actuarial tables. I’m sure any day now it will reflected in shorter lifespans.
TV might be an improvement for you. Latching on to the stupidest stuff on earth and proclaiming enlightenment is not a way to go through life.
We’re done-until you post Sun Tzu’s rules of war.
You just wasted more of my time-
Your Iraq war death totals are as imaginary as the rest of your nonsense.
I know for fact more people were murdered in Chicago during the Iraq war than US forces died in Iraq. By fact, it means leaked classified military documents.
We are done. Period. The end.
You will hear from me again if I see replies similar to the idiotic one that started this conversation.
Ok. Call it 100k dead Iraqis, 7k dead US heros and another 7k US heros who put a bullet in their brain. (this is an extremely low estimate but let’s go with it)
What did Saddam do that required us to sacrifice all of that so that Iran got another satellite?
Make it make sense.
Because we weren’t preventing him from using WMD. Do you think we were destroying all of those people because Saddam was a bad boy?
Or were we fighting a war for Israel and lining the pockets of the defense industry?
Do you know of Richard Pearle and his “clean break” letter to Netanyahu all the way back in 1996? The whole thing had been planned for nearly a decade for the benefit of Israel.
Again, I was once like you. I believed in fighting the Muslims at all cost. Then I started reading history. Started using critical thinking. Stopped listening to people who lied to me. And I realized that I had been fooled.
There is no shame in getting fooled. There is great shame in allowing it to happen again.
Do you feel confident that you understand the history of Israel and of Zionism? Perhaps you should learn about it if you want to hold such strong views. There are lots of good, fair, even handed resources out there. I can give recommendations if you need some.
No more 9/11’s. Despite being promised one every other year 23yrs ago.
An elephant fact conveniently ignored by like minded constantly.
Dictating venue is the second rule of war and radical islam blowing themselves up halfway around the globe vs highly trained volunteers over Main St in your town is called dictating venue.
It’s called redeeming value.
The truth is almost always in the middle. It is not to be found at the simple, easy and convenient polarized somewhat delusional end.
We’re def done this time. I replied out of courtesy as you obviously took the time to respond. I will not be reading nor replying the next time.
Maybe the media, bankers and think tanks being paid by the defense industry were predicting another 9/11 every other year but they may have had an agenda. LOL.
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