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Obese people more likely to die in car crashes
New Scientist ^ | March 2, 2002 | Kurt Kleiner

Posted on 03/28/2002 7:39:41 AM PST by Paradox

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I use to read about the opposite, that fat people had more cushioning or something.

Seems like someday soon, the do-gooders will use this information in order to fuel legislation against fatty foods, or maybe a cheeseburger tax....

1 posted on 03/28/2002 7:39:41 AM PST by Paradox
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To: Paradox
Obese people more likely to die in car crashes

That's crazy talk, since they're less likely to fit into a car.
2 posted on 03/28/2002 7:42:33 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: Paradox
There's a class action suit in here somewhere just waiting to come out.
3 posted on 03/28/2002 7:43:52 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: Paradox
Force = mass x accelaration, heavier person exposed to more force.
4 posted on 03/28/2002 7:46:42 AM PST by Leto
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To: Paradox
But no one yet knows what it is that puts overweight passengers at extra risk.

I think they will find the answer to that intimatley related to the fact that force equals mass times accelleration, and that sufficient quantities of force tend to be lethal.

5 posted on 03/28/2002 7:47:28 AM PST by tacticalogic
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Let's just reduce this to basics -   "Obese people more likely to die." There, that wasn't so hard, was it?
6 posted on 03/28/2002 7:47:58 AM PST by toddst
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To: Paradox
Go here to find your BMI
7 posted on 03/28/2002 7:49:09 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: Leto
Force = mass x accelaration, heavier person exposed to more force.

No, people who have heavier non-fat body mass do not have the same correlation of risk. It is a fat specific risk, not a mass specific risk. Re-read the article.

8 posted on 03/28/2002 7:50:52 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: toddst
Don't be so condescending with my sarcasm.
9 posted on 03/28/2002 7:52:18 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: Paradox
Me = BMI = 20.1

I'm immune to death in car crashes! ha ha ha -- splat ...

10 posted on 03/28/2002 7:52:51 AM PST by jlogajan
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Thank you, the real question is why any intelligent person would have a problem understanding why obese people are more likely to be killed. I had a conversation once with a Vietnam vet who said he grew up in a dirt floored cabin in Alabama. He told a story of a fat uncle who was standing on a ground sled being pulled by the mule he was driving. It seems the fat uncle lost his balance on a bump and fell off the sled. This would be a fall from a flat surface no more than six inches off the ground and moving no more than two miles per hour. He said his uncle "busted open like a ripe watermelon and his guts spilled out". I saw my own father fall from the top of my doorsteps, a height of nearly four feet, at the age of 81 and he got back to his feet with no injury because he was not fat. Why do people insist on making the simplest thing the subject of an investigation to find out what any country boy knew 100 years ago from simple observation.
11 posted on 03/28/2002 7:57:46 AM PST by RipSawyer
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BMI is bogus unless you are a couch potato.

At some company sponsored health screening, the health bimbo informed me that I needed to lose sixty pounds based on my BMI.

Funny thing is, I have no appreciable belly. It doesn't stick out or hang over my belt. Where am I supposed to lose 60 lbs from?

12 posted on 03/28/2002 8:00:07 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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"his uncle "busted open like a ripe watermelon and his guts spilled out". "

Thank you for sharing.

13 posted on 03/28/2002 8:02:33 AM PST by SarahW
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Obese people more likely to die in car crashes

Fat people never get run over while jogging, so it’s a wash.

14 posted on 03/28/2002 8:04:08 AM PST by dead
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BMI is bogus unless you are a couch potato.

Well, BMI is for the "average" person of that weight/height classification. Obviously it can't apply to body builders who have a lot of extra weight that is all muscle.

But I think most body builders are aware to ignore BMI.

15 posted on 03/28/2002 8:05:47 AM PST by jlogajan
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BMI is bogus unless you are a couch potato.

The problem with the BMI is that it doesn't take into account the relative fat percentage. As an avid weight lifter (well, I USED to work out religiously), my BMI was always in the obese range, but I certainly was no where near obese. I had a measured/estimated 7% body fat. Obese is more like 30% or more.

16 posted on 03/28/2002 8:05:51 AM PST by Paradox
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He told a story of a fat uncle who was standing on a ground sled being pulled by the mule he was driving. It seems the fat uncle lost his balance on a bump and fell off the sled. This would be a fall from a flat surface no more than six inches off the ground and moving no more than two miles per hour. He said his uncle "busted open like a ripe watermelon and his guts spilled out".

Thanks for the biggest laugh of the day! How did you keep from laughing in his face when he told you such a ridiculous story?
17 posted on 03/28/2002 8:11:29 AM PST by flyervet
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I had a measured/estimated 7% body fat.

What did you use to measure/estimate body fat. I have one of those electronic scales that measures the resistance up and down your legs as you stand on it. My body fat averages around 14% (varies a couple of percent either way.)

If I set the scale to "athlete body type" the reading drops almost in half -- but I don't really qualify for that type yet.

So I am wondering how accurate the scale is.

18 posted on 03/28/2002 8:17:16 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: flyervet
I did not consider it a ridiculous story, only tragic. Perhaps you have no knowledge of the dangers of morbid obesity. I had an uncle myself who weighed over 500 pounds at one time. I am sure if he had taken any kind of a fall at all it would have been disastrous. As it was he died at the age of 53 from congestive heart failure. The point I was trying to make is that I cannot understand why anyone would be surprised that obese people are far more likely to suffer massive injury or death in a crash than people of normal weight. To me it seems as obvious as the sun rising.
19 posted on 03/28/2002 8:22:17 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: flyervet
Even a watermelon won't split like a watermelon when dropped from a height of six inches.

Methinks a few brews had gone around when that story was told.

20 posted on 03/28/2002 8:25:06 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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