Too many trees feed Colorado fires

Washington Times ^ | Sunday, June 16, 2002 | By Valerie Richardson

[tiki]

Cutting them down!!!??? What sacrilege! Then we might be able to put the lumber to good use and create jobs in private enterprise. And then the goverment wouldn't need to employ bimbos who start fires by being total and complete idiots.

On a different note, I just talked to my son who lives near the fires. He went camping last week-end, the wind was blowing and they kept hearing these loud thuds. Trees were actually blowing down in the wind. He moved his jeep because there was a tree nearby and low and behold, it fell just minutes after he moved it.

The trees are so crowded that they aren't as healthy as they should be and they have shallow root systems and the soil is so dry that they were just being uprooted. He says the old timers all say "Let 'em burn"

[lavaroise]

Too many trees and too much oxygen concentration.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

They have chased the loggers out of the woods

We sure don't want anyone making a living in the woods. We don't want people to have the lumber to use for houses, furniture and thousands of other worthwhile uses. We want to create endless forest fires or simply let the trees rot and die from old age because that is really "wise" use of a living resource.

We have to get sane people into our government before the left-wing idiots destroy everything we own and get us all killed in the process of making our country uninhabitable.

[thucydides]

The claim that the Forest Service employee was burning a letter from her estranged husband in the confines of a fire ring and thereby set off a huge blaze doesn't seem credible. Perhaps she needed a story that sounded better than just plain malicious mischief or pyromania. Or could it be a case of government bureaucrats thinking setting off huge fires would definitely get them budget and pay raises? Sorry to be so cynical, but after all, the Clinton administration filled many of these government posts.

[blackie]

Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, enviro-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

[1Old Pro]

There are simply too many trees. "We have so many more trees out there than under natural conditions,"

DUH, maybe we should cut down a few hundred thousand trees. Pine is useful in construction and perhaps costs might come down.

[another cricket]

Amen Sister! Testify!

a.cricket

[mafree]

Oh, so we now have tree overpopulation eh? Preposterous.

[AuntB]

I was looking for this. I heard it on ABC radio news last night at 11:30, and haven't heard much else. I hope it gets it's own post. Thanks e-s!

[Tijeras_Slim]

It's not so much the number of trees total as the density of trees in many of the West's forested areas. Add to this that enviro's are against the harvesting of wood that is already down or dead (a large tree can have a good amount of salvageable wood for nearly 2 years) No only does this allow fires to spread rapidly and destructively, but crowded forests are more disease and insect damage prone. I know, the mountains here in NM are like a bomb, probably the driest year since 1956.

[AuntB]

"What I want to know is if Terry Barton is a member of FSEEE (Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics)."

Good point! Sunday I watched a hearing from last Wednesday with Cheif Bosworth and Natural Resources committee. I wonder if he knew it was a FS employee then? Scott McInnis' parents home was nearly burned. Otter from Idaho was suggesting bond be posted by the enviro's every time they file a suit so that economic damage can be addressed while they tie up salvage logging etc. in courts. JD Hayworth ranted about the FS biologists that planted lynx hair and noted to Bosworth that those employees got a bonus. Bosworth didn't say squat. I really wonder if he knew about Barton Wednesday. This is so utterly horrible.

Be sure to see Post #17 - Forest Service Employee starts Colorado fire!

[Washington_minuteman]

The departments of the Interior and Agriculture need to be purged of each and every person who was hired during the Clinton administration. As long as those people remain, they are more of a threat than all the ELF'ers combined because what they do is done under the color of law.

[Grampa Dave]

A few decades ago, working for the forestry service was one of the better Governmental Jobs.

Now the service is infiltrated by Rat Enviral Nazis pushing the Enviral Agenda while being paid with our tax $'s!

Thanks to these Pimps in the Forestry Service and the Oregon Enviral Nazis, out of work loggers can't harvest the trees that were killed in last year's Oregon fires due to the killing agendas of the Oregon Enviralists.

The Oregon economy continues in the dumper while Andy Kerr and the Oregon Enviral Nazis block even the harvest of dead trees killed by last year's fires!

[AuntB]

Hey Minuteman!! Barton, I heard, is a 15 year employee, but I bet she got some Clintonian promotions....knee pads, anyone??? Gotta run!

[MaeWest]

BUMP!

[mafree]

OK you could be right but how can that problem be solved without caving in to those enviro-wacko ideas?

[Tijeras_Slim]

I don't believe there is any caving in to be done. We need to clear overgrown land, excessive underbrush and dead/diseased trees. This will reduce the amount of combustible material and lead to healthier forests.

For many years the policy was to supress all fires, which led to many of the problems we have in the forests today. We can't clean up these problems without a certain amount of logging and clearing, as well as controlled burns where possible (unless we let widlfires just run their course, which isn't going to happen) The problem is that the enviros are against these measures, not so much out of a concern for the "pristine" forests IMO, but about access control, to cut off everyone from the woods.

Good forest management is like game management.

[NorCoGOP]

Just found out my aunt and uncle had to flee their home near Durango due to the Missionary Ridge fire - getting close to the town of Bayfield. Scary situation.

Used to be, back in the 1970's, that a thriving lumber industry was up and running around Pagosa, Durango, Del Norte, etc....all facilities were closed and razed years ago - they are right when they say there is no industry to revive - it packed up and left DECADES ago.

[mrustow]

Thanks for the ping. I know exactly where you're heading, and I'm right there with you with my tinfoil hat. The government's environmental overseers are themselves loony, and they are burning down the asylum.

This reminds me of the other story you alerted me to a few months back, about the federal environmental workers who spread phony traces of endangered species, in order to get yet another huge area put under environmental lockdown. (And whose bosses refused to release their names, much less prosecute them!)