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Partner Swapping Out Of Closet -- Swinging Accepted -- Women Driving Movement
San Frencisco Chronicle ^ | July 9, 2002 | Julian Guthrie

Posted on 07/09/2002 11:03:09 PM PDT by Dajjal

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Askel5
Wow. That is an incredible "Frontline" transcript.
61 posted on 07/10/2002 9:22:58 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Askel5
I've just started posting threads by him ...

Please flag me to them. How did you first come across his writings/hear about him?

62 posted on 07/10/2002 9:25:22 PM PDT by ELS
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Remeber when we used to say special prayers for the Russians at the end of every Mass. Perhaps we need to start doing that again.

And praying that God would see fit to save our Republic also.

63 posted on 07/10/2002 9:25:40 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Askel5
NR used to offer Erik von K-L's Leftism Revisited with subscription to the zine. http://www.nationalreview.com . Not sure how recently they have offered that. It had been out of print, I think.
64 posted on 07/10/2002 9:32:46 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Dajjal
Yawn ........ married people who **** around.

Do they want a ******g medal for it?

65 posted on 07/10/2002 9:33:42 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
They won't be smiling so widely when one of them gets AIDS,
herpes, Syph, or hepatitis.
66 posted on 07/10/2002 9:35:37 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Askel5; ELS
Acton Institute's obit tribute to Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn:

http://www.acton.org/research/libtrad/kuehnelt.html

67 posted on 07/10/2002 9:52:37 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Dat
A few months ago someone posted a thread about this and some people rushed to defend swinging, admitting that they do it themselves. Apparently even people at FR (who you would not think of as the type) do it.

How disgusting. Got a link?

68 posted on 07/10/2002 10:00:35 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dajjal
NASCA, a national organization of swingers ...

And all these years, I'd thought it was about auto racing.

69 posted on 07/10/2002 10:03:36 PM PDT by x
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To: Dec31,1999
If they're not careful, eventually by exponential diffusion, they'll end up with Gary Condit's and Bill Clinton's microbes. Something to think about.
70 posted on 07/10/2002 10:04:22 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Askel5

These kinds of threads are always disconnected with the Islamics' beef with our society. Why is that?
71 posted on 07/10/2002 10:10:12 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999
lol, no, I just thought it was interesting.
(I dare not give my opinion on the subject or else the more P.C. among us will harang me for being judgemental, a statist or what not)
72 posted on 07/10/2002 10:14:00 PM PDT by Dat
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To: Dat
Ain't no AIDS or STD's in Islamic societies that I know of.
73 posted on 07/10/2002 10:19:40 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: x
"NASCA, a national organization of swingers ..."

And all these years, I'd thought it was about auto racing.

Didn't Rush Limbaugh say last week that the Democrats were going after the "NASCA Vote"?

74 posted on 07/10/2002 10:22:46 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
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75 posted on 07/10/2002 10:35:12 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Askel5
I went to the website home page and found their guestbook. Here is one entry from their guestbook. These people are truly sick. And, they call themselves Christians.

Name: Camrod

Location: Reston

Email: camstar@37.com

Website: deleted

Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2002

Time: 10:17:15 PM

Comments

I think your explanation of the parental role in helping children by having sex with them is beautiful, I think it is sick to deny a child sexual pleasure with their own parents and limit them to a type of stunted love. A child should be able to lose her virginity to her father or brother foremost, rather than a stranger, or experience the taste her mother or father's sexual fluids just as she would her husband. How odd to send a child off to school, without experience, full of fear and insecurity, because he or she lacks the sexual skills needed to enjoy sex with others. I think it is because of sickening restrictions like this that there are child rapes and abuse, because the parents of children who instinctively want to make love to their children are forbidden to, and both child and parent act out provoking eachother, until the inevitable happens. If anyone would like to help support the movement to give children their sexual freedom with parents or other adults, please try my website at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXor the other mirrors I list.

Sincerely,

Camrod, Youth Pastor

Dave says: In our culture this is illegal and few people can even rationally discuss the issue. In many cultures, when a child reached puberty they were taught good sexuality skills by elders. In Biblical times you married at 12/13 years old usually based on a financial family deal and were betrothed at an earlier age. But in today's culture hands on teaching by elders at puberty is illegal and not possible due to our immaturity regarding sexual issues. I have also deleted the website references in this intro since they are mostly pay sites and of questionable legality if their claims are true of the models ages. URL: http://www.libchrist.com/interact/lcguestbook.html __________________________________________________________

Our society is sick, and it gets sicker every day.

76 posted on 07/10/2002 11:27:06 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
Oh man ... that's two sites in one day I should have vetted more thoroughly.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll see if I can't find the original 48 Hours and other posts at did at the time of the airing to use in the future.

77 posted on 07/10/2002 11:44:02 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Dec31,1999
These kinds of threads are always disconnected with the Islamics' beef with our society. Why is that?

While it's true that a Godless nation cannot remain free I would no more confuse the 9/11 actions of Terrorists with a devout, Godfearing and moral Muslim than I would confuse a pro-lifer with someone who'd bomb an abortion clinic or assassinate an abortionist.

Militant atheists and their more pragmatic fellows are simply triangulating the People of the Book, that's all.

78 posted on 07/10/2002 11:53:30 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Yeah, that place was an eye-opener.
79 posted on 07/10/2002 11:54:28 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Askel5
BTW< I saw that Frontline about the children of Rockdale County, too. Frightening.
80 posted on 07/11/2002 1:07:37 AM PDT by Dajjal
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