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Homosexual 'Big Brothers'?
CitizenLink ^ | 7/15/02 | Bill Maier, Psy.D.

Posted on 07/15/2002 8:28:47 PM PDT by ppaul

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To: bleudevil
This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

42 posted on 07/16/2002 5:10:58 AM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: Khepera; Ff--150; 4ConservativeJustices
Thanks for the ping. However this makes me so mad, I'm sure I shouldn't comment at the moment lest I say something very very bad. Except this, what kind of absolute IDIOT would think that this is a good idea?
43 posted on 07/16/2002 5:15:57 AM PDT by billbears
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To: ppaul
A study in the journal "Pediatrics" surveyed 34,707 Minnesota teenagers and found that fully 25.9 percent of 12-year-olds were uncertain if they were gay or straight.

So the plan is to help them to decide.

44 posted on 07/16/2002 5:21:29 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: yendu bwam
I don't think many parents would send their teenage daughters out for the day with young heterosexual men.

THAT is a very good point, and I wish more of the complaints about situations like this came from this perspective, as opposed to the "God Hates Fags" viewpoint that unfortunately permeates these threads.

As a libertarian, I couldn't care less how a homosexual chooses to live his life, and as an agnostic, I don't use my perception of a deity's views towards homosexuality as a barometer of my opinions. But as a realist, I see the inherent danger in placing an adult in intimate, private company with a child of the gender he or she is sexually attracted to. I don't think a heterosexual male should be a Girl Scout Troop leader, I wouldn't want to see a young boy in this program with a Big Sister, and I don't see any reason to have a homosexual male keep close company with a young boy.

I think if more conservatives couched their arguments in these terms and left out comments like "chutney ferret", we'd have a much easier time convincing the general public of the dangers of this kind of thing.

45 posted on 07/16/2002 5:21:32 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: truenospinzone
"As a libertarian..."

Translated:

"As an anarchist..."

46 posted on 07/16/2002 5:25:38 AM PDT by Windsong
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To: truenospinzone
Don't give me that agnostic crap. If you don't like homosexuality, you are a religious fruitcake in the eyes of the media. PERIOD. You don't get to couch the argument.
47 posted on 07/16/2002 5:27:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: yendu bwam
Enroll those kids in Boy Scouts...

Exactly. Boy Scouts is safe, wholesome, fun... You can actually still pray together at Boy Scouts! It's cool.

48 posted on 07/16/2002 5:27:48 AM PDT by gcraig
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To: Windsong
Wow, thanks for contributing to the discussion-at-hand in an insightful, intellectual way. I mean, if you just jumped in with the ad hominem name-calling towards someone who is on your side on this issue, some might think you were just being an idiot...
49 posted on 07/16/2002 5:29:22 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: AppyPappy
I know the feeling. I'd imagine that it's a lot like making reasoned arguments, and being attacked by people who don't even bother listening to what you have to say, resort to childish name-calling, and accuse you of all sorts of ridiculous viewpoints, even when you agree with them.
50 posted on 07/16/2002 5:34:08 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: truenospinzone
I thought you did a good expansion on the original comment. I'm a Christian and mostly conservative. But when you take religion out of the mix, it does boil down to pure common sense. Unfortunately, as you commented, people don't think of it in those terms.
51 posted on 07/16/2002 5:35:20 AM PDT by peteram
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To: Bob
They are not recommending that the chapters accept active homosexuals; they are requiring that they include them.

It seems obvious to me that homosexuals with pedophile tendencies are exactly the ones that will be interested in joining the organization. Certain baits attract certain animals. The solution would be to always pair a homosexual to a child of the opposite sex.

52 posted on 07/16/2002 5:43:48 AM PDT by William Terrell
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To: mdittmar
Keeping my powder dry until confirmed.

Hmmm. . . does that mean you'll pee on your powder when confirmed ??? ;-))

53 posted on 07/16/2002 5:49:56 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: yendu bwam
My guess is that the organization will become increasingly homosexual over time - like the 1/3 lesbian Girl Scouts, or the 40% homosexual Catholic priesthood.

Again, send these boys to Boy Scouts - the odds of any sort of homosexual molestation are much, much lower there and the vast majority of adults involved are indeed good, decent AND straight men.

I agree on this! Why have we let the homosexuals ruin so many good institutions? Where is the outrage?

54 posted on 07/16/2002 5:59:59 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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To: ppaul
The child abusers are...parents who force their staid morality onto the young people in their custody.

There you go. A new definition of "abuse" will be "forcing" your morality on your children. Of course, forcing them to accept a perverted lifestyle will be considered "normal" and "enlightened".

God help us.

55 posted on 07/16/2002 6:00:46 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: kapn kuek
I agree on this! Why have we let the homosexuals ruin so many good institutions?

Homosexuals have the right to lead their lives the way they want. They don't have an automatic right to be around other people's kids (though they think they do). And you're right. They have brought enormous shame on the Catholic Church, while raping the bodies and torturing the psyches of thousands of teenage Catholic boys. In that situation, I assure you, there is great outrage.

56 posted on 07/16/2002 6:08:25 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Bill Rice
Catholics and faggot priests will really "get behind" this fine program for the young folks now.

I'm Catholic and am not happy with the way the homosexuals have desecrated the Church. I have stopped attended mass and no longer give to the church. With the extra money I have upped my donations to Conservative Causes.

What will it take to stop the homosexual movement? Certainly not bashing Catholics. Perhaps you should join us in outing the truth about the homosexual lifestyle and their recruitment of our young.

57 posted on 07/16/2002 6:08:36 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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To: yendu bwam; peteram
"...but there are hordes of Catholics who are burning mad about what's been allowed to happen in their Church. I'm one of them."

While I certainly wasn't implying that all Catholics or Priests are fags, you guys ARE the ones who have allowed this thing with the faggot priests to happen. (And it's been happening for a LONG time.)

You "burning mad" Catholics are the ONLY ones who can do anything about it.

Cut off all donations until your church listens. Maybe hang a few of the "Holy" perverts who you know for sure bugger and sodomize your kids. At the very least,beat the living snot out of them a few times.

God will forgive you for doing it. (And he'll forgive you WITHOUT any of these guys even being part of the equation.)

NOW back to the subject at hand ...

58 posted on 07/16/2002 6:11:05 AM PDT by Bill Rice
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To: billbears
I'm sure I shouldn't comment at the moment lest I say something very very bad.

Why hide your anger! We need all the help we can get. What are your ideas?

59 posted on 07/16/2002 6:13:14 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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To: truenospinzone
I think if more conservatives couched their arguments in these terms and left out comments like "chutney ferret", we'd have a much easier time convincing the general public of the dangers of this kind of thing.

I think the great fear of homosexuals is that the public will find out what they are really like! Their lifestyle is anything but “gay”. If the truth were in the news night after night the public would be justly repulsed by the vileness of what the homosexuals do.

60 posted on 07/16/2002 6:17:00 AM PDT by kapn kuek
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