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New 'Moon' Found Around Earth
BBC ^ | September 11, 2002 | Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 09/11/2002 11:35:35 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad

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To: robertpaulsen
Fithp?

Project Orion, anyone?

41 posted on 09/11/2002 12:07:25 PM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: hellinahandcart; aomagrat; veronica; Thinkin' Gal; Catspaw; Cachelot; Orual; aculeus; general_re; ..

"Space JOO" alert...

Foolish Gentiles!
Your puny weapons are no match for our orbiting matzo balls! The earth will be ours!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

42 posted on 09/11/2002 12:07:30 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Dog
Rent the movie ID4 and buy a roll of Reynolds Wrap.
43 posted on 09/11/2002 12:08:17 PM PDT by Deguello
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To: Cultural Jihad
Paging Magneto...
44 posted on 09/11/2002 12:09:16 PM PDT by william clark
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To: Cultural Jihad
it takes a convoluted horseshoe path around our planet as it is tossed about by the Earth's and the Moon's gravity.

How big is this rock, and just how close does it come to earth?

45 posted on 09/11/2002 12:09:40 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Cultural Jihad
Moonslight becomes you.
46 posted on 09/11/2002 12:10:05 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Cultural Jihad
THIS JUST IN.

This shot of the newly discovered moon from the Hubble telescope indicates yet another key element of the highly vaunted "Clinton Legacy."

There is wide speculation that there is also a carving of Bill -- with several interns -- on this newly discovered moon. But since he does his best work out of the light, it is on the dark side.


47 posted on 09/11/2002 12:12:11 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: TonyRo76
Maybe we've found the planet Norman Mailer and Noam Chomsky have been living on!

LOL!!! Maybe they'll go back and take Howard Zinn with them!

48 posted on 09/11/2002 12:14:47 PM PDT by facedown
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To: 537 Votes
A worthy attempt, but unfortunately Cruithne is Irish (Gaelic) and is pronounced 'Krinneh'. So a Bostonian might say 'Cruithne is a winneh'.
49 posted on 09/11/2002 12:15:12 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: js1138
How big is this rock, and just how close does it come to earth?

It is three miles across, and it reaches its closest approach to earth (9.3 million miles away) every 385 years. Its next close approach is 2285.

50 posted on 09/11/2002 12:15:27 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: js1138
How big is this rock, and just how close does it come to earth?

Physicist could better answer your questions, but a 50 day orbit of an object requiring a telescope to see seems to imply a great distance.

51 posted on 09/11/2002 12:15:36 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: billbears
Bingo! It is not a moon, since it does not orbit earth. This article is incorrect in describing Cruithne as a moon of earth's.
52 posted on 09/11/2002 12:17:10 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Cultural Jihad
But experts are not completely sure what exactly the object is.

Somebody call Art Bell...

53 posted on 09/11/2002 12:19:26 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Cultural Jihad
The Osama Orbiter Death Star has been deployed and is now fully functional. Resistance is futile, prepare to be assimilated. Resisters will be vaporized. Transmission over.
54 posted on 09/11/2002 12:21:40 PM PDT by witnesstothefall
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To: Cultural Jihad
Cruithne

Holy Cow, I never heard of this moon! Thanks for posting this. Here's some more info I found about Cruithne. Apparently, there may be a whole bunch of these things out there.

MANY MOONS

From Andrew Yee

[http://helix.nature.com/nsu/991007/991007-2.html]

Many moons
By PHILIP BALL

The Moon might have a whole clutch of hidden siblings, according to planetary scientists Carl Murray and colleagues of Queen Mary and Westfield College in London, UK. In a paper published in the 27 September issue of Physical Review Letters[1] they show that asteroids that pass close to the Earth can become trapped in weird orbits around our planet.

One such asteroidal companion to the Earth has already been discovered. In 1997, scientists in Canada and Finland reported that the asteroid Cruithne, a chunk of rock wandering between the orbits of Mercury (the innermost planet) and Mars, is following a path that is linked to the motion of the Earth (see Nature 387, 685; 1997).

Cruithne does not go around the Earth, like the Moon itself -- its trajectory is considerably more complex. Basically it travels in loops shaped like a kidney bean, which lie beyond the Earth. As the Earth circles the Sun, it drags Cruithne's loopy path with it. But the motion is even more complicated than this, because the loop runs slightly ahead of the Earth, completing almost a full circle until it approaches the planet from the other side -- whereupon it changes direction and creeps back again.

At its closest point (which it reaches every few hundred years), Cruithne comes within just 10 million miles of the Earth. Its path actually overlaps the Earth's position, but there is no risk of collision because the kidney-bean loops are tilted at an angle to the plane of the Earth's orbit -- so Cruithne passes over our head, as it were.

The only other known examples of such peculiar "horseshoe" orbits are those of two of Jupiter's satellites, Janus and Epimetheus. But neither has such a complex relationship to its mother planet as does Cruithne does to the Earth, and Murray and colleagues have examined the theoretical aspects of the asteroid's motion to develop a better understanding of how it arises.

What they found was that Cruithne's strange dance represents just one manifestation of a whole class of "co-orbital motions" -- that is, of asteroids whose orbits are tied to those of a planet. These motions become possible if the asteroids pass by a planet on orbits that are very elongated (rather than circular) and tilted with respect to the plane of the Solar System.

Under these conditions, the planet can capture the asteroid, forcing it into co-orbital motion for periods of several thousand years. But because the motion of many-body gravitationally bound systems like the Solar System is intrinsically chaotic, these periods of capture don't last forever -- the asteroid might escape to drift at random, before perhaps then being recaptured in a different kind of orbit.

The researchers identified at least one other known near-Earth asteroid that might share Cruithne's fate, becoming temporarily enslaved to the Earth. They say that both this asteroid, called Khufu, and Cruithne itself could in the future adopt orbits that do actually circle the Earth, like the Moon -- but going "backwards", in the other direction. Their calculations predicted that, in the past, Khufu could already have behaved in this way for 35,000 years. It may be that our planet even now has such "retrograde" moons, too small to be easily spotted.

See the York University and Tuorla Observatory site http://www.asteroid.yorku.ca/ to learn more about the asteroid Cruihne.

[1] Namouni. F, Christou A.A., & Murray C. D. Coorbital Dynamics at Large Eccentricity and Inclination. Physical Review Letters 83, 2506; (1999)

© Macmillan Magazines Ltd 1999 - NATURE NEWS SERVICE


55 posted on 09/11/2002 12:21:52 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Mike Darancette
That's "Gort, Klaatu BARADA Nikto", you fool!!!

California has just been smoked!!!

56 posted on 09/11/2002 12:23:32 PM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Cultural Jihad
I've read about a second moon, apart from the 2nd and 3rd mentioned here. Supposedly it was so small as to almost be untrackable. Like the size of a large boulder.
57 posted on 09/11/2002 12:28:07 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Junior
Cruithne. It was discovered in 1986 and it takes a convoluted horseshoe path around our planet as it is tossed about by the Earth's and the Moon's gravity."
I thought I was reasonably up to date on the easy stuff, like earth's moon(s). Somehow this one went right by me. How could I have missed something like that? Didn't it get any publicity? Or was I just out of it more than usual back in 1986?
58 posted on 09/11/2002 12:28:50 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: jpsb
This article is incorrect in describing Cruithne as a moon of earth's.

Yes, it is a moon of earth. Not all orbits are round, other shapes are possible. Taking orbit as being somnething of a permanent, related, and periodic motion, a horseshoe orbit is a perfectly good orbit. If you want to just go around and around in a boring round orbit, take Lance Bass's seat on the Russian Soyuz rocket.

59 posted on 09/11/2002 12:29:51 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Cultural Jihad
Has anyone seen Hillary lately???
60 posted on 09/11/2002 12:34:18 PM PDT by patriot_wes
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