Has Iraq Smuggled 2-3 Nuclear Devices into U.S. waiting detonation? Washington Says Yes

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[Orangedog]

Since we're talking hypothetically, take a look at this link:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/mapablast.html

You enter an address, choose the type of warhead, it generates a map showing what damage would happen at varying distances from "ground zero."

[johnny7]

I would bet-the-farm that DC would be their prefered target for a nuke/dirty nuke/neutron bomb.

With the idiots in the DC police, you know, the ones that can't find a dead body, anything can happen.

[Maringa]

If it doesn't happen now, it will happen in the future. 10 to 20 nuclear bombs going off simultaneously in various cities followed by the realease of anthrax, smallpox, VX would probably finish off our country, killing probably in the tens of millions. I am not convinced that they will have a small nuclear weapon but possibly stolen 1 Mt variety from old Russion stockpiles. Our military would be unharmed, but they would be recalled to assist in recovering our nation. Our nation would be paralyzed for years, while Europe and Russion become the next battlefront of the Al-Quaeda. Doomsday scenario? Yes...but that day is coming closer and closer.

[Vermont Lt]

"Hey Billy Bob....I just read here that the earth isn't hollow....Y'all wanna tell that leprehcan that he should go back into his hole! Y'all tell him to leave that pot of gold though!"

Of course the earth is hollow. There are aliens. And yes, boogers are food.

[ZeitgeistSurfer]

Mossad killed Gerald Bull, the Canadian who was developing it for Iraq.

Good news. I guess I wasn't informed. Sounds like you are. My guess is that you don't get your G2 from Debka.

[Dan Day]

You enter an address, choose the type of warhead, it generates a map showing what damage would happen at varying distances from "ground zero."

*NOTE*, however, that the only choices you get on that site are for *FUSION* (i.e. "hyrogen") bombs, *NOT* the much smaller *FISSION* (i.e. "atom") bombs that Iraq might possibly be able to build.

Absolutely no one is crediting Iraq with being anywhere near the ultra-high-tech level of being able to produce a hydrogen bomb.

Correspondingly, the smallest choice at the "mapablast" site represents explosions at *least* twenty times larger, more like 100 times larger, than anything that Saddam might be able to put together.

[Orangedog]

If it doesn't happen now, it will happen in the future. 10 to 20 nuclear bombs going off simultaneously in various cities followed by the realease of anthrax, smallpox, VX would probably finish off our country, killing probably in the tens of millions.

Anyone with 10 to 20 nuclear bombs doesn't need anthrax, smallpox, or vx. Besides, wasn't the Soviet Union rumored to once have had several man-portable "suitcase" nukes already deployed in several major cities back during the cold war?

[eno_]

Our reponse, so far, has been so weak and un-serious that, while you paint a worst-case scenario, it would still be easy to believe the threat is multi-layered. For example, Smallpox + VX, or nuke + anthrax.

We needed to deport all illegal Moslems and closely scrutinize every naturalized citizen and permanent resident from all the Moslem terrorist nations for links to radicalism. We needed to make our borders much harder to sneak across. We did neither of these things and thousands, perhaps millions, will die because we failed in this.

[Doc Savage]

Plutonium 239 half-life is 24,000 years. Plutonium 244 half-life is 82,000,000 years. I'd say that was long enough to dirty up a city.

[caa26]

I'm not sure about the contents of the article. But it seems evident there are sleepers already in the USA with anthrax, small pox, and who knows what else.

I'm dubious on nuclear bombs being positioned in various cities. But lets face facts with all the drugs smuggled into the USA, terrorists or Saddam had working nukes, there is no reason not to think they would have any trouble sneaking them into the country.

[Orangedog]

With the idiots in the DC police, you know, the ones that can't find a dead body, anything can happen.

Sargeant Schultz had more control over Stalag 17 than the DC cops have over DC.

[Dog Gone]

Debka says

"Washington acted after discovering that Iraq had smuggled two or three nuclear devices at least into the United States for detonation by sleeper cells planted by Iraqi intelligence."

I'm adding this to my list of hilarious claims by Debka.

[CollegeRepublican]

Supposedly, at the fall of the Soviet Union a KGB agent crossed the boarder from Canada with a suitcase nuke and delivered it to the J. Edgar Hoover Building in DC. I believe that this story is true and my sources are pretty good.

[Orangedog]

Supposedly, at the fall of the Soviet Union a KGB agent crossed the boarder from Canada with a suitcase nuke and delivered it to the J. Edgar Hoover Building in DC.

He was probably treated better than the 60 year old grannies who get the riot act for trying to get past airport security whith their nitting needles.

[sheik yerbouty]

No, his mom was "Ma whore".

[Tijeras_Slim]

Or a goat.

[denydenydeny]

The thing to remember is that nuclear weapons are not like other bombs. They are incredibly complex and need constant maintenance or they will be useless after a relatively short time.

They can't be "stored" anywhere where there aren't the most skilled technicians to maintain them constantly. They will tend to become big radioactive paperweights otherwise.

[CollegeRepublican]

Maybe I should have made it clear that he turned in the nuke to the FBI since the Soviet Union and The USA were no longer in the Cold War. And yes, he probably lives in the US somewhere in "Montana" or some such place now.

[Quix]

I haven't found DEBKA *THAT* off the wall.

Even if it were THAT fringe-y--as my boss pointed out--it was the fringe broadsides, pamphlets, organizations that got Hitler's goals, hazards etc. most right the earliest.

I think part of DEBKA's problem is--they are hyper alert, hyper sensitive--and perhaps connected well enough they get stuff there's little to no other evidence on. Some of it proves out. Perhaps some of it changes in the interim and some of it falls short. It's still information worth pondering, to me.