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Artist says Bin Laden & henchmen "need congratulating" for their "visually stunning" atrocity.
NY Daily News ^ | 9/17/02 | Rush & Molloy

Posted on 09/17/2002 7:19:14 AM PDT by PJeffQ

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To: PJeffQ
Hirst, who has made a fortune trotting out animal cadavers as conceptual art, says the World Trade Center attack was "kind of like an artwork in its own right."

Bear with me: in a sense, I agree with him. I'm not sure whether I can explain this properly.

One of the things that has bothered me most about the destruction of the WTC was its spectacular grandeur. The scale of the catastrophe was terrible. The enormous balls of fire, the gigantic columns of smoke, the way in which the collapsing buildings flowed like liquid down their own sides lent a perversity to the act that is unmatched by many disasters with larger death tolls.

It was mass murder as performance art, which is so much worse to behold than simple mass murder.

It reminds me of the legend of the woman who made lampshades with the skin of Jews slaughtered in the Holocaust. When we think of such a thing, it's comforting to picture the lampshades as looking like something out of the Flintstones, with ragged edges and perhaps bloodstains, the product of an uncivilized brute. How much more awful it is to picture instead a really pretty lampshade, gracefully executed by a skilled hand! Artistry is something that the civilized mind just does not want to associate with barbarism. When we see them together, our minds recoil.

Hannibal Lecter doesn't simply tear out someone's liver and gulp it down raw like an animal. No, he eats it at a table, with fava beans and a nice Chianti. The garnish amplifies the horror of the act.

If the fall of the towers hadn't been so beautiful, for lack of a better word, the tragedy would not have been as horrible.

41 posted on 09/17/2002 12:34:36 PM PDT by Physicist
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42 posted on 09/17/2002 12:52:19 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Physicist
I suppose if we have to take Bin Laden and his gang as artists then the US response and the demise of much of Al Queda is art criticism or perhaps rival art. I think Daisy Cutters and JDAMs have their own aesthetic. The B-1 and B-2 bombers are beautiful in their own right. Let us not forget the old masters such as the B-52. We just need more money shots of say Mecca being turned into a parking lot. Something many here on FR would applaud and say Bravo and Encore. We philistines here are just art deprived.
43 posted on 09/17/2002 2:06:40 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Emile
Does PETA know about this? Or are there artistic exceptions to the mutilation of animals?

There was an exception for an "artist" canning his own excrement hitherto; this fellow is unbothered by the likes of PETA, disgusting as he is.

Regards, Ivan

44 posted on 09/17/2002 2:58:04 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: glory
I agree MadIvan, this modern art does not compare to any of the greats.

In my opinion, the art world came down with the same malady that infected the film and music worlds - somehow the aspiration to create grandeur was replaced with the desire to create shock value. Things have to be jarring rather than pleasing to the senses. And the jarring effect is intended to be continual, rather than to make a point. The sum total in the long run is that our arts are, in a word, crap.

Regards, Ivan

45 posted on 09/17/2002 3:00:59 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: ladyinred
I wonder if the guy could be called art if someone stuck a sword up his butt and took a photo.
46 posted on 09/17/2002 3:05:00 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Corin Stormhands
"Not if you've got bigger stones"

We should just throw them at this wacko.
47 posted on 09/17/2002 4:39:44 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Physicist
If the fall of the towers hadn't been so beautiful, for lack of a better word, the tragedy would not have been as horrible.

The collapse was spectacular (my preference) because the towers themselves were spectacular, as was their manmade environment: the Island of Manhattan. The world was the audience for the collapse thanks to worldwide television a product of (mostly) American technology, energy and business acumen.

The destruction of the towers was as much "art" as was the Talibans' destruction of those beautiful Buddhas in Afghanistan.

48 posted on 09/17/2002 5:49:32 PM PDT by aculeus
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He should be hung by his heels and s-l-o-w-l-y lowered into a vat of piranha. How's that for artistic flair?

--Boris

49 posted on 09/17/2002 6:28:06 PM PDT by boris
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To: Physicist
People are visual creatures. They react strongly to visual stimuli. People who fight wars are aware of this - Napoleon certainly was, Hitler certainly was. They design their armies and its actions to inspire fear and awe. At its best that's certainly a form of art.
50 posted on 09/17/2002 8:29:32 PM PDT by liberallarry
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