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Stephen Jones Speaks to CBN -- Oklahoma City Cover-Up: The Iraq Connection
Christian Broadcasting Network ^ | 10/22/02 | Dale Hurd

Posted on 10/22/2002 1:33:44 PM PDT by glorygirl

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1 posted on 10/22/2002 1:33:45 PM PDT by glorygirl
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2 posted on 10/22/2002 1:35:16 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
But what has always been puzzling has been the government's lack of interest in pursuing other suspects.

Nothing puzzling about it. Clinton wanted OKC pinned firmly on the right-wing. Likewise, intelligence services learned to provide to the Clinton Administration what they wanted to hear. So why would anyone be surprised that the FBI and CIA failed to see 9/11 coming?

3 posted on 10/22/2002 1:35:48 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: glorygirl
"Stephen Jones says there is no doubt Nichols, who was married to a Filipino, met with Youssef in the Philippines."

Maybe I should have put this in "breaking news" --somebody else can try, if they want. Just "add a keyword" -- breaking.

4 posted on 10/22/2002 1:38:21 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
It wouldn't surprise me to see a connection between
foreign and American terrrorists.
After all they both want the same thing: TERRORIZE AMERICANS!
5 posted on 10/22/2002 1:39:55 PM PDT by apackof2
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To: glorygirl
Iraq is also linked to Al Qaeda and 9/11 according to the following lawsuit on Find Law

Ashton, et al. v. al Qaeda, et al.: Complaint (PDF) Lawsuit claiming a 9/11 link between Iraq and al Qaeda. Sept. 3, 2002

The file is in slow loading .pdf format, but it is an interesting read. Some excerpts:

39. Upon information and belief, there have been numerous meetings between IRAQI Intelligence agents and high-ranking AL QAEDA terrorists to plan terror attacks. Once such meeting occurred in 1992, when ZAWAHIRI (EGYPTIAN ISLAMIC JIHAD leader and AL QAEDA officer) met with IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agents in Baghdad, IRAQ over several days. An IRAQI serving with the TALIBAN who fled Afghanistan in the fall of 2001, was captured in Kurdistan and has corroborated this meeting and confirmed that IRAQI contacts with AL QAEDA began in 1992.

During the early 1990s, Sudan’s Sheikh Hassan al-Tourabi of the Islamic National Front arranged meetings between BIN-LADEN and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials. BIN LADEN met with FARUQ AL-HIJAZI, an IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agent in the Sudan who would later head IRAQI INTELLIGENCE for SADDAM HUSSEIN. BIN LADEN again met with IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officers in 1994 and 1995 in the Sudan. At these meetings, BIN-LADEN and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE secret service director FARUQ AL-HIJAZI agreed to work together on terrorist projects directed against the U.S.

55. From 1996 until 2001, BIN LADEN with the financial and logistical support of OMAR and others in the TALIBAN and IRAQ and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE, created, supplied and operated at least five training camps in order to create an “Islamic Foreign Legion” capable of attacking their enemies throughout the world. These camps trained men from 15 nations in guerrilla warfare, terrorist activities, rocket warfare, demolition and bombing, including the use of mines, grenades, TNT, nitroglycerine and plastic explosives. Classes were also given in “how to kill a policeman” and “traps, murder and terrorist moves.”

57. In February 1997, BIN LADEN publicly expressed his support for IRAQ in its conflict with the United States stating:

“The hearts of the Muslims are filled with hatred towards the United States of America and the American president for American conduct towards IRAQ.”
59. IRAQ upon information and belief, agreed to supply arms to AL QAEDA and provide AL QAEDA with access to and training in the use of chemical and biological weapons and agreed to instruct AL QAEDA terror trainers at its Salman Pak camp in Baghdad that contained a Boeing 707 used to practice hijacking. IRAQ also agreed to supply AL QAEDA terrorists with new identities and passports from Yemen and the United Arab Emirates.

60. AL QAEDA agreed to provide protection from political opponents to IRAQ and SADDAM HUSSEIN, and to commit assassinations and other acts of violence to create instability in regions of IRAQ, particularly Kurdistan, to assist the regime of SADDAM HUSSEIN. AL QAEDA further agreed to provide trained terrorists, assassins and martyrs to carry out terror attacks in concert with IRAQ against their common enemies, including the United States.

64. Between April 25 and May 1, 1998, two of BIN LADEN’s senior military commanders, MUHAMMAD ABU-ISLAM and ABDULLAH QASSIM, visited Baghdad for discussions with SADDAM HUSSEIN’s son -- QUSAY HUSSEIN -- the “czar” of IRAQI INTELLIGENCE.

65. QUSAY HUSSEIN’s participation in those meetings highlights the importance of the talks in both symbolic and practical terms. Upon information and belief, as a direct result of these meetings, IRAQ again made commitments to provide training, intelligence, clandestine Saudi border crossings, financial support and weapons and explosives to AL QAEDA.

66. IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials met with BIN LADEN in Afghanistan several more times. A second group of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives from Saudi Arabia were then trained by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE in IRAQ to smuggle weapons and explosives into Saudi Arabia and other countries, which they later accomplished in an effort to carry out future terrorist acts of violence. A third group of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives received a month of sophisticated guerrilla operations training from IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials later in the Summer of 1998.

67. Despite philosophical and religious differences with SADDAM HUSSEIN, BIN LADEN continually sought to strengthen and reinforce the support he and AL QAEDA received from IRAQ. In mid-July 1998, BIN LADEN sent Dr. AYMAN AL-ZAWAHIRI, the Egyptian co-founder of AL QAEDA, to IRAQ to meet with senior Iraqi officials, including Iraqi vice president TAHA YASSIN RAMADAN. Upon information and belief, the purpose of this meeting was to discuss and plan a joint strategy for a terrorist campaign against the United States.

69. During the July 1998 visit ZAWAHIRI toured an IRAQI military base and nuclear and chemical weapons facility near al-Fallujah in IRAQ and upon information and belief, observed training by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials of AL QAEDA operatives at the al-Nasiriyah military and chemical weapons facility in IRAQ.

79. Following the December 1998 air strikes on IRAQ, SADDAM HUSSEIN dispatched FARUQ AL-HIJAZI to Kandahar, Afghanistan in order to meet with BIN LADEN and plot their revenge.

81. To demonstrate IRAQ’s commitment to BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA, HIJAZI presented BIN LADEN with a pack of blank, official Yemeni passports, supplied to IRAQI INTELLIGENCE from their Yemeni contacts. HIJAZI’s visit to Kandahar was followed by a contingent of IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials who provided additional training and instruction to BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives in Afghanistan. These Iraqi officials included members of “Unit 999,” a group of elite IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials who provided advanced sabotage and infiltration training and instruction to AL QAEDA operatives.

82. At that meeting, upon information and belief, BIN LADEN, AL QAEDA and IRAQ agreed to join efforts in a detailed, coordinated plan for a protracted terrorist war against the United States.

84. IRAQ maintains an advanced chemical and biological weapons program and is one of only three countries in the world producing a highly developed weaponized anthrax. Some time during or after 1998, IRAQ agreed to help BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA develop a laboratory in Afghanistan designed to produce anthrax.

85. In addition to the al-Nasiriyah and Salman Pak training camps, by January 1999, BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives were being trained by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE and military officers at other training camps on the outskirts of Baghdad.

86. In January 1999, IRAQ began reorganizing and mobilizing IRAQI INTELLIGENCE front operations throughout Europe in support of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA. HAQI ISMAIL, believed to be a member of the IRAQ’S MUKHABARAT Secret Service, left IRAQ to train in an Afghanistan AL QAEDA camp. ISMAIL was believed to be a liason between IRAQ, the TALIBAN and AL QAEDA and was rewarded with a position in the TALIBAN Foreign Ministry.

103. On July 21, approximately six weeks before the September 11 th attacks, IRAQI columnist Mulhalhal reported that BIN LADEN was making plans to “demolish the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”

104. Mulhalhal’s July 21 article further informed that BIN LADEN would strike America “on the arm that is already hurting.” Upon information and belief, this references a second IRAQI sponsored attack on the World Trade Center. This interpretation is further bolstered by another reference to New York as “[BIN LADEN] will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra everytime he hears his songs.” (e.g., “New York, New York”) identifying New York, New York as a target.

105. Mulhalhal further indicated, “The wings of a dove and the bullet are all but one and the same in the heart of a believer.” (Emphasis supplied) This appears to be a reference to the use of commercial aircraft as a weapon. The information was reported in an IRAQI newspaper who’s editor-in-chief serves as secretary to UDAY HUSSEIN’S Iraqi Syndicate of Journalists. The article expressed IRAQI admiration and support for BIN LADEN’s plans and its appearance in the newspaper would clearly have to be endorsed by SADDAM HUSSEIN himself.

106. All IRAQI news media is strictly controlled and censored by the government of SADDAM HUSSEIN and is under the direct oversight of UDAY HUSSEIN. Various members of IRAQI intelligence work at and control the content of each and every newspaper published inside IRAQ. 107. The information contained in Mulhalhal’s published statements were known prior to the events of September 11 th , and that Mulhalhal has ties to IRAQI intelligence, demonstrates foreknowledge of the planned attacks by BIN LADEN and indicates support by IRAQI co-conspirators.

110. According to U.S. and foreign intelligence officials, in the spring of 2000, IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agents met with September 11 th pilot hijackers ZAID SAMIR JARRAH and MARWAN AL-SHEHHI in Dubai, UAE in order to advance the hijacking of U.S. aircraft to commit terrorist acts. Not long after the meeting, AL-SHEHHI entered the United States on May 29 and JARRAH entered on June 27, to begin preparations for attacks.

133. Instruction documents on an artillery weapon known as the “Super Gun” were found in AL QAEDA camps when they were captured by U.S. forces in the winter of 2001-2002. IRAQ is the only state known to have purchased and assembled the super gun, a weapon so large it must be constructed in segments. It has a range of several hundred miles.

6 posted on 10/22/2002 1:42:01 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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Asked the admin mod to retitle this "Stephen Jones: Nichols Met With Youssef in Phillippines."
7 posted on 10/22/2002 1:46:40 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
And I believe the earth is flat. Sorry, I got to put on my tin-foil hat if I'm gonna read any more of this twaddle.
8 posted on 10/22/2002 2:01:21 PM PDT by Drango
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Well,you're certainly not the only one....
9 posted on 10/22/2002 2:02:18 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
No problem. We can just take a closer look at the crime scene for clues. Darn, they tore it down and planted grass there the next day. Oh well, we can just ask Timothy McVeigh. Shoot....he was executed faster than any heinous criminal in our history. Mr. Nichols may be destined for a freak accident or heart attack in jail.
10 posted on 10/22/2002 2:04:30 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Drango
.....got to put on my tin-foil hat if I'm gonna read any more of this twaddle.

I think this has enough credibility now to skip the tin foil hat garbage. This is no longer speculation. It involves multiple unconnected eywitness reports from credible Americans in both Kansas and Oklahoma.
11 posted on 10/22/2002 2:08:30 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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Jones says that when he accepted Timothy McVeigh as his client, he received what would be a prophetic warning from McVeigh's first attorney.

"She said to me, when you know what I know, you will never think of the United States of America again in the same way. I learned that government law enforcement agents will do, at the direction of their political masters, whatever it takes to see that their instructions are followed...destroy evidence, withhold evidence, lie. They will do it. They did do it," Jones recalled.

anybody recall the name of the lady that initially represented timmy? from what jones says, she should have a lot to say.

12 posted on 10/22/2002 2:11:46 PM PDT by thinden
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To: dirtboy
But what has always been puzzling has been the government's lack of interest in pursuing other suspects.

Clinton also didn't know crap about international affairs, and he wanted this to problem to go away. He also wanted the first WTC bombing to go away, Khobar towers, Somalia, Embassy bombings in Africa, and the USS Cole bombing to go away too.

He ignored the terrorist problem for his entire presidency, and he ushered this country directly into September 11, 2001

13 posted on 10/22/2002 2:12:51 PM PDT by HighWheeler
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And I believe the earth is flat. Sorry, I got to put on my tin-foil hat if I'm gonna read any more of this twaddle.

Well, you DO have a picture of Big Bird as the main feature on your FR webpage, I guess it fits.

14 posted on 10/22/2002 2:15:01 PM PDT by HighWheeler
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excerpt from the article quoting mcveigh's attorney jones:

"I believe Timothy McVeigh's role in the Oklahoma City bombing was a very minor one," Jones said. "A member of the conspiracy? Yes. The leader? No. The financier? No. The organizer? No. Timothy McVeigh saw his role as the cover for everybody else, to be the person to fall on the sword. It served deep-seated emotional needs that he had, and it furthered the role of the conspiracy."

makes you wonder who belonged to the leg w/ the army fatigues and combat boot found in the rubble that they could never match up to any of the victims.

15 posted on 10/22/2002 2:16:36 PM PDT by thinden
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I don't recall Timmy's female attorney. Thanks for the flag, I'll try to read this in its entirety later.
16 posted on 10/22/2002 2:18:33 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: glorygirl
I think there was an Iraq connection.

But watch out for JOnes. This guy is a political opportunist, a leftist, an ACLU type. He's not one of US. He therefore can't be believed. So far this is the most disturbing evidence of there not being an iraq connection.
17 posted on 10/22/2002 2:20:36 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: glorygirl
I learned that government law enforcement agents will do, at the direction of their political masters, whatever it takes to see that their instructions are followed...destroy evidence, withhold evidence, lie. They will do it. They did do it,"

Yep, that just about covers it.

18 posted on 10/22/2002 2:22:51 PM PDT by csvset
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To: thinden
One was Jeri-Lynn something the idiot who shows up on the shout shows defending Liberals and other indefensible things.
19 posted on 10/22/2002 2:23:34 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: apackof2
There's also the theory in Muslim lands that holds "the enemy of my enemy is my friend...for now, at least."
20 posted on 10/22/2002 2:24:55 PM PDT by Poohbah
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