exists wheat among the chaff.
If there were peaceful people among Islam (wheat?)
why have they not spoken up. They dont exist.
And as for the pictures of the Islamic atrocities.
Sorry you dont like them. They are staying.
Posted on 12/20/2002 3:26:37 AM PST by demosthenes the elder
If there were peaceful people among Islam (wheat?)
why have they not spoken up. They dont exist.
And as for the pictures of the Islamic atrocities.
Sorry you dont like them. They are staying.
"I just felt, oh, in the back of my head, please don't be Muslims doing this," James says.Some here would consider this man to be evil based on his religious faith."What hurt me probably most of all," he continues, "was that here is a religion that I entered because of the universality. And the tolerance. . . . Yet these people who did that . . . were just so intolerant and so disregarding of their own tenets, that they could do something so horrific."
-Eric
Where is one discussion of the homicidal bombers, or the 911 Atrocities as ATROCITIES?
Did you turn in Islamic terrorists to the DOD and FBI?
That would be more impressive and make a better point.
Your proIslam site says 911 was a "tragedy".
It was, of course, an "ATROCITY". Would you please update the page.
It's clear that you are a thoroughly decent man, a man of good will. Your letter to Miss Saib makes that quite plain. Nevertheless, I urge you to caution, and to consider certain facts with particular care.
While it is not absolutely uniform, the tendency is strong among Muslims to pre-exculpate fellow Muslims for anything they might do to "infidels." The operating principle appears to be "Thou shalt not speak ill of a brother Muslim." This tendency is powered by the natural fellow-feeling of co-religionists, but is also reinforced by the many "us versus them" strictures of the Qur'an and the various hadith of Muhammad's life and deeds.
A religion that preaches that violence and deceit are excusable, if practiced by Muslims against "infidels," but that "infidels," heretics and apostates deserve any and everything a true believer might choose to do to them, is a dangerous thing. It's not really a religion at all, but a war ideology. To make it a religion would require the deliberate, careful excision of its many exhortations to violence, and the installation of an ethic of spiritual individualism in their place.
Until that has occurred, what will it mean for anyone to say "I am a Muslim"? Does he subscribe to the central tenet of Islam -- that the Qur'an was dictated by Allah Himself, and therefore must be taken literally, word for word? If so, how does he escape the pressure of the commands to make actual war on all the non-Muslims of the world and compel them by force to accept Islam and the sharia law? If not, how does he call himself a Muslim? And in all cases, how are we to trust anything he says, given that the Qur'an excuses deceit practiced toward "infidels" if it will conduce to the well-being of Muslims and the propagation of Dar al-Islam?
Muslims desperately need a religious reformation. They must explicitly renounce those aspects of their scriptures and doctrines that confine us "infidels" to Dar al-Har, the House of War, where we have no rights against a Muslim and a Muslim has no obligations toward us, not even the smallest requirement of honest dealing. Jews and Christians have done this; Muslims never have
Until that day, it will be impossible for me to trust any of them. Even afterward, I will be extremely wary until Islam has compiled a substantial record of peace, honesty, and good will toward the non-Muslim world -- a record which has yet to begin.
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason:
http://palaceofreason.com
The guy who runs it, Syed B. Soharwardy, is pretty hard core. MAT is an offshoot of Islamic Supreme Council of Canada which is portal to various propaganda sites such as Holocausts of Muslims Around the World.
Noodle around a bit at these sites and links and you'll find that things are not quite as represented.
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