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The Perfidy Of The French...
Iconoclast.ca ^ | Jan. 24, 2003 | Stephen Rittenberg

Posted on 01/24/2003 9:42:40 AM PST by FBD

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To: Karl B
Thanks for the kind words. And this is what the French SHOULD have tried to learn from Americans:

"I confess that in America I saw more than America; I sought the image of democracy itself, with its inclinations, its character, its prejudices, and its passions, in order to learn what we have to fear or hope from its progress."-- Alexis de Tocqueville

A great man. Too bad he was wasted on the French. Hey , I know the French had lots of great people.

I'm just having a little fun, because right now, the French government is stabbing us in the back, by making deals with Iraq, in exchange for CHEAP OIL

PS. Get a sense of humor, man. You can make fun of the Norwegians all day long, and I'll laugh right along with you. Know what the shortest book in the library is?
"The Norwegian Book of Knowlege"! Now that's damn funny.;^D

It wouldn't hurt you to be a little more self-deprecating.
But then you wouldn't be French any more, would you. :^)

42 posted on 01/28/2003 11:00:32 AM PST by FBD (They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
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To: Karl B
I have to give the French credit for being such fine housekeepers--dressmakers, pastry cooks and all. And, nice perfumes and home decor. No wonder the Germans wanted to invade! So cozy, so chic! Do make them a nice cassoulet to welcome Herr Maitre home.
44 posted on 01/28/2003 12:03:17 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: MeeknMing; SwinneySwitch; happygrl; Temple Owl; Starboard; ex-Texan
For Bush fans, and Texans: Addition to "The Perfidy Of The French"
Hey Meek, I know you are from Texas, so you will love this article,

From The Iconoclast:

Le plus on leur baise le cul, le plus ils nous chient sur la tete.
(The more you kiss their a$$, the more they $#!+ on your head.)
-- from Red Gold

By Alan Furst

January 28, 2003: America has been attacked; it faces a formidable enemy; and we turn to the nations of the world for moral support in our fight. And what do we get from our former French allies -- the finger.

That's the friendly response of the French government, the French press, and the French intellectual establishment, members of the French elite all -- eaters of oysters, drinkers of premier crus, and lovers of polysyllabic words and nuanced politics. They love to make fun of Americans, and especially of George W. Bush.

According to their patronizing view, Americans are crude, simple, inarticulate, and tasteless. And not surprisingly, Bush is depicted in the French press dressed in a cowboy outfit with a moronic smile and toting two shootin' irons.

But it's time to remember a few things:

In 1940 the great French Army -- the largest and best among the Western Europeans -- surrendered to the Germans in 43 days. And because of the rapidity with which the great French Army capitulated, it suffered the fewest casualties of any of the so-called Allies.

France was liberated by an Anglo-American army, not a French force. The Free French were not even told when D-Day was scheduled, and took no part in D-Day. A small French force was allowed to participate in Operation Anvil -- the invasion of southern France in August of 1944.

The invasion of southeast France along the Riviera was accomplished by the American Seventh Army, which consisted of three divisions, and these three divisions chased Germany's Nineteenth Army out of southern France. Two of those three divisions were made up largely of cowboys from Oklahoma (the Forty-fifth) and Texas (the Thirty-sixth).

The Texas division was made up of guys from little towns like Galena Park and Melissa where, for a few dollars a month, they joined the National Guard, which became federalized at the beginning of the war. The division was blooded in the brutal Italian Campaign the year before, and then in late summer of 1944 the Thirty-sixth started on its mission to free southeastern France.

Starting with St. Raphael, they drove northward through Cannes, Grasse, Gap and Grenoble, places these boys had never heard of before they left home and had no plans to visit. They had worked on farms and ranches back home, in shops as mechanics, in stores as clerks, but they were cowboys at heart. Not very verbal or grammatical, they wore cowboy hats mostly, the cheap kind made of straw, and talked about everyday things, but not their cowboy values -- being a square shooter, and being upright and honest men. They'd never heard of Voltaire, or Rousseau, or Chateau Petrus -- but they liberated southern France, something the great French Army couldn't do.

The Thirty-sixth Infantry -- the Texas cowboys -- closed with the German Nineteenth Army as the Germans retreated north along the Rhone. At Montelimar, the Americans blocked the German retreat and a major week-long struggle ensued until many thousands of Germans surrendered and many hundreds of Texans lay dead, like Pvt. Cecil Lewis from Houston, killed in action, or Sgt. George W. Rivers, Jr. from Tuxedo, killed in action -- cowboys who had never heard of Montelimar and had never planned to visit.

The Thirty-sixth worked its way northeast, fighting the retreating Germans and liberating French town after town. On September 2, the Division entered Lyons and it was greeted by throngs of civilians who came out of hiding to applaud their liberation. The elderly shook hands and threw flowers; the young sought autographs and climbed aboard Jeeps and trucks.

In the midst of winter, the Texans fought their way week by week through the Vosges Mountains and then through Alsace to the Rhine and into Germany. Their last cowboy adventure occurred in Austria in May, a few days before the end of the war. The Texas division had heard rumors that a number of important French personages were being held captive by the SS in a castle near Worgl, Austria, so they sent a tank crew and a handful of infantrymen of the Thirty-sixth to investigate. The patrol climbed the mountain to the twelfth-century Alpine castle of Itter where Edoard Daladier and Paul Reynaud, former prime ministers; General Maurice Gamelin, former commander of the French Army; General Maxime Weygand, commander of the French Army at the time of the French surrender; Mme Alfred Cailliau, sister of General Charles DeGaulle; Michel Clemenceau, son of the French statesman; and Jean Borotra, French tennis star, were all being held captive.

When the patrol reached the castle, the German commandant surrendered it. But it was still surrounded by a large force of German SS troops which began to attack as soon as they realized that the American group was so small. Their artillery knocked out the lone American tank and blasted gaping holes in the old castle.

Captain John Lee, the officer in charge of the expedition, organized his small force and because the castle occupied the high ground and was surrounded by a moat, they were able to withstand with minimum losses the repeated storm trooper assaults. At three in the afternoon, long after the defenders had run out of ammunition, another detachment of the Thirty-sixth drove through the SS ranks and opened the road to the castle.

So let's remember, you French bastards, the Texas cowboys who went to France even though they never planned to visit -- and who remain there to this day.


Yale Kramer, Co-Publisher, Horsefeathers


45 posted on 01/28/2003 12:29:11 PM PST by FBD (They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
We fought our battle and theirs too...



Davy Crockett using "Old Betsy" musket as a club at the Alamo.

46 posted on 01/28/2003 1:36:35 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Great find and a post worth reading twice! Thanks for posting it and pinging me.
47 posted on 01/28/2003 1:38:34 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
The saga of the "Lost Battalion" was brutal.

The Army considers it one of the most significant battles since the Revolutionary War. In the dark forests of France's Vosges mountain range 56 years ago, a unit of Asian Americans -- some of whose parents were imprisoned in U.S. World War II internment camps because of their race -- fought the odds in rescuing their fellow soldiers.

http://starbulletin.com/2000/03/25/news/story4.html
48 posted on 01/28/2003 3:07:33 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Pass the Ban!)
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To: Mamzelle
"I have to give the French credit for being such fine housekeepers--dressmakers, pastry cooks and all. And, nice perfumes and home decor. No wonder the Germans wanted to invade! So cozy, so chic! Do make them a nice cassoulet to welcome Herr Maitre home."

LOL!!! ;^)

Now that is funny!

Careful though, Karl is pretty sensitive about his French heritage. He's gonna take that very personaly.

Karl----Mamzelle -Jab!- Jab!

49 posted on 01/28/2003 4:07:57 PM PST by FBD (They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Excellant link! Thanks for posting it.

Japanese-Americans sure got a bad rap during the war. They were some of our best soldiers. I can't say much for Sen. Inoea's politics (sic) of Hawaii, but he was definitly a war hero, also. Almost gave his life saving some of his buddies, and seriously wounded.
50 posted on 01/28/2003 4:12:53 PM PST by FBD (They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
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To: ex-Texan; MeeknMing; SwinneySwitch
You bet! Did you see this yet? ;^D


51 posted on 01/28/2003 4:19:26 PM PST by FBD (They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat

52 posted on 01/28/2003 4:37:42 PM PST by FBD (They don't call 'em frogs for nothing.)
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
LOL! Funny!
53 posted on 01/28/2003 4:46:20 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat; Lazamataz
You TOO can conquer France!

Why?

Oh, let me ask Laz if he wants France...ping!

5.56mm

54 posted on 01/28/2003 4:58:50 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
Why?

"Because it's there...

LOL :^)
55 posted on 01/28/2003 5:31:09 PM PST by FBD
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Thnak you for a great post!!!!
56 posted on 01/28/2003 5:36:42 PM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
I'm sensitive to mine, too, which is one reason I feel free to lay it on thick. French ingratitude to American blood spilt for them is a shameful cross to bear. I remember when our embassy in Iran was taken hostage, and American diplomats on the run knocked at the door of the French embassy for help. They were turned away, but the Canadians gave them sanctuary. Now the Canadians are more French than Brit.

The blood of Lafayette, the people who gave us the Statue of Liberty...? How low they have fallen.

57 posted on 01/28/2003 5:59:30 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Karl B; dighton; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart
Nice language, monsewer ...

I'll bet you eat with that mouth as well.

59 posted on 01/29/2003 4:21:57 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: BlueLancer
Notice the name, the German Karl, rather than the Gallic Charles. Pre-surrendered.
60 posted on 01/29/2003 5:54:09 AM PST by Mamzelle
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