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U.S. cites China, Israel, Saudi Arabia for poor human rights
CNN ^ | March 31st, 2003 | Elise Labott

Posted on 03/31/2003 6:10:26 PM PST by Sabertooth

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: TopQuark
Sharon should call on Bush to exercise "restraint?"

LOL! He better hurry up. The Indians did so already.
41 posted on 03/31/2003 7:07:48 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: MissAmericanPie; Alouette
How about telling the Pali's to stop "occupying" Isreali land. What about a little clarity here?

Hypothetically: how about telling the Jordanian Hashemites to stop occupying the real "palestinian homeland?"

I don't actually support doing this now, but neither should we lend an ounce of credibility to the lying, false claims of the genocidal "palestinians." That's the problem I have with the current comments by Bush, Rice, and Powell.




42 posted on 03/31/2003 7:12:28 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Israel gets it again. Gotta love our State Department, they really know how to stab an ally.

PC nonsense from idiot bureaucrats.

43 posted on 03/31/2003 7:14:47 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Open the pod bay door HAL.)
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To: Sabertooth
Do you support rewarding terrorism?

No. Answer my question.

That's what our policy regarding Israeli settlements does.

Then I assume you are at odds with our country. "Do you support the occupation of the true "palestinian homeland?" That's what our policy regarding the peace process does."

OK, you've established yourself as opposing the US. Sad. Here's another question: is Yasser Arafat a palestinian?

Answer: Why should I care?

44 posted on 03/31/2003 7:20:34 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: EternalVigilance
"I don't support a 'Palestinian state'"

Sorry, that's not my question. Again, do you support US foreign policy?

45 posted on 03/31/2003 7:23:03 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: Sabertooth
Israel gets it again. Gotta love our State Department, they really know how to stab an ally.

The State Department is Saudi-occupied territory.

46 posted on 03/31/2003 7:26:21 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Calling Susan Sarandon a [*bleep!*]: It's not just for Rocky Horror anymore." --John Bergstrom)
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To: Sabertooth
"On this matter, of course. Now for some questions of your own... Does "palestine" exist? Where? Why? Is it occupied? By whom?"

Guess you don't understand: Are you with the US or against the US? Pretty straight forward question. BTW, I asked you first.

47 posted on 03/31/2003 7:26:23 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: bribriagain
If there's a point you'd like to make, spit it out.

48 posted on 03/31/2003 7:28:30 PM PST by WarSlut (40,000 men & women every day...)
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To: EternalVigilance
"State your position. Then I will respond when I come back later."

I support US foreign policy with regard to the ME. You?

49 posted on 03/31/2003 7:29:42 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: Sabertooth
Israel?....toro caca...
this is pandering to the arab muslims again...imo
getting ready to force Israel to appease terrorists by cutting up her already diminished land and giving it to those who blow up their own children to kills others children..

If anyone is guilty of human rights abuse its the so called palestinians imo

"terrorism flourishes in free societies when it is tolerated and fostered"

The idea of blaming external forces for causing terrorism is to not hold people accountable for their actions and excuse them..it also is statist as it puts the onus on the state to take care of the problem by changing society...as if this will make the problem go away..

Terrorists kill because it is what they do...and what is in their nature to do..

They refuse to live in peace...they are envious and angry which is also in their nature and believe they have the right to steal kill and rape...this I know because the Koran tells me so..

Appeasment will not work...ask the Israelis instead of calling them human rights abusers
what will work...and then help them...had they not blown up that Iraqi nuke plant..and with Billy boy in the white house OK City wouldnt have been blown up with a fertilizer bomb or the WTC with a hijacked commerical air liner..
It is stupid to appease them what is needed is to hammer them imo
51 posted on 03/31/2003 7:30:39 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Sabertooth
Wow. I don't recall "Palestinians" being a nation. Typical CNN bias.
52 posted on 03/31/2003 7:32:00 PM PST by yonif
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To: bribriagain
I support US foreign policy with regard to the ME. You?

So you support a Palestinian State.

Me? I only support a Palestinian State under the condition that it be invaded and obliterated the moment it's created.

53 posted on 03/31/2003 7:32:12 PM PST by WarSlut (40,000 men & women every day...)
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To: Alouette
"I don't expect this to happen in my lifetime."

While it may not happen in your lifetime, maybe it will happen in your childrens. May G-d happen if not.

54 posted on 03/31/2003 7:32:51 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: Slings and Arrows
"The State Department is Saudi-occupied territory."

Are you calling George Bush a liar? That's his policy.

57 posted on 03/31/2003 7:38:24 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: bribriagain
Why should I care?

Because it's important; because you give every indication of not knowing the History of the region.

Arafat is an Egyptian, So were his parents.

There is no such thing as a "palestinian people," it is a fiction concocted by Arab terrorists, and bought by far too much of the world at large.

Even so, a "palestinian" homeland was established in 1922 by the League of Nations, when the Jews gave up 78% of the land granted to them by the Balfour Declaration in response to Arab atrocities, in return for peace. The Arabs are never held to account where Israel is concerned. They can attack and murder, and then try again.

I don't support a US foreign policy that incessantly rewards "palestinian" terror by putting pressure on Israel to give up so much as a pebble of their land.

It would be sad, truly, if I did.

Here's some reading material...

The British Mandate for Palestine
... the Balfour Declaration applied. This has remained a grievance with the Zionist side,
but it should be remembered that the area to the east of the river Jordan ...
www.mideastweb.org/mandate.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages

The British Mandate
... Mandate for Palestine" the area that is today Israel and Jordan became the ... of the
British Mandate incorporated the language of the Balfour Declaration and were ...
www.palestinefacts.org/pf_ww1_british_mandate.php - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

The British Mandate: Overview
... In 1921, Britain took the 91,000 square kilometers of the Palestine Mandate east
of the Jordan River, and created Trans-Jordan (later the Arab country of Jordan ...
www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_overview.php - 13k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.palestinefacts.org ]

Ask Jeeves: Search Results for "British Mandate"
... 1. The British Mandate for Palestine The League of Nations Mandate for Palestine,
1922 ... israel.htm 8. Modern History Sourcebook: The Balfour Declaration (1917 ...
webster.directhit.com/webster/ search.aspx?qry=British+Mandate - 27k - Cached - Similar pages

[PDF]contemporary 4
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Israel after World War II (utilizing the Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations
Mandate for Palestine ... Israel and the Arab nations of Jordan and Syria ...
www.sasinschool.com/resource/ pages/pdf/contemporary_4.pdf - Similar pages

A History of the Land of Israel
... This is why both the Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations Mandate charged
the Jews ... anger would have been directed as much against Jordan and Egypt ...
www.uiuc.edu/ro/tagar/History.htm - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

The British Mandate With Arab help, the British took ...
... With the Balfour Declaration, Britain's aim was ... was incorporated into the League
of Nations mandate for Palestine ... armies of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and ...
members.tripod.com/~lenapedata/Background.htm - 10k - Cached - Similar pages

British Mandate of Palestine - Wikipedia
... In 1921 Britain separated its League of Nations mandate of Palestine and Transjordan
east of the Jordan River into a separate territory, Transjordan. ...
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_mandate_of_Palestine - 32k - Cached - Similar pages

The History and Meaning of "Palestine" and "Palestinians" - The ...
... The Balfour Declaration of 1917, confirmed by the League of Nations Mandate, commited
the ... originally included all of what is now Jordan, as well as ...
www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/isreport/ july01/history_palestine.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

British Mandate 1920-1946
... the area which today comprises Israel and Jordan. ... was to become a League of Nations
Mandate, entrusted to ... the implementation of the Balfour Declaration of ...

You can find more from running a Google search on balfour "league of nations" mandate.




58 posted on 03/31/2003 7:39:19 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Ping for future reference (great, great post).
59 posted on 03/31/2003 7:40:52 PM PST by WarSlut (40,000 men & women every day...)
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To: bribriagain
Guess you don't understand: Are you with the US or against the US? Pretty straight forward question. BTW, I asked you first.

You're question isn't straightforward, it's simplistic.

I support the War on Terror. We'll win the war, but if, as with the last Gulf War, we once again punish Israel in our victory, then we will most surely lose the peace.




60 posted on 03/31/2003 7:43:04 PM PST by Sabertooth
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