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Captain America, Traitor?
National Review Online ^ | April 4, 2003, 7:15 a.m. | Michael Medved

Posted on 04/04/2003 6:26:13 AM PST by SlickWillard

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To: hchutch
You hit the nail on the head. We need to be out there, trying to get our message to the world.
41 posted on 04/04/2003 8:29:06 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: TheBigB
Long live the Legion! I remember the storyline with the Sun-Eater fondly - I was traumatized by Ferro Lad dying to save the galaxy. That just didn't happen in the Legion then! The Adult Legion stories, Universo, the Fatal Five...ahh, that's the good stuff.

Love Cap too - C.C. Beck is one of the most underrated comics creators of all time. The Mr. Mind storyline is a hoot and a half!
42 posted on 04/04/2003 8:30:41 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: Naspino
I had no idea about Marvel. Oh well another one bites the dust and enters my boycott list.

I'm still checking out XMEN 2


43 posted on 04/04/2003 8:32:27 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: MikeD
For what it's worth, the best portrayal of government in a Marvel comic has been in "Black Panther." There was a great arc a year or so back where a supporting character was debating domestic policy with the President, and the President was written as witty and intelligent. Three cheers to Christopher Priest...

President Bush? Or a generic "President?"

44 posted on 04/04/2003 8:34:46 AM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Betcha we never see a cover TODAY like this one...


45 posted on 04/04/2003 8:35:07 AM PST by TheBigB ("When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you."--Chuck Norris (wish he'd say it to Daschle))
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To: TheBigB
Ahhh...Mac Raboy art! Gorgeous cover.

Apropos of nothing, I have a Captain Marvel Adventures cover by Kurt Shaffenburger that has a dinosaur humping Cap's leg! Those are some seriously wacky books!
46 posted on 04/04/2003 8:37:56 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: SlickWillard
Sounds more like the Rawhide Kid. The new homo hero. Isn't he a new Marvel character?
47 posted on 04/04/2003 8:38:07 AM PST by N. Theknow
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To: SlickWillard
What next? Superman undergoes sex change?
48 posted on 04/04/2003 8:41:21 AM PST by woofie
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To: Naspino
Please see my post 35 on this thread.
49 posted on 04/04/2003 8:41:33 AM PST by hchutch ("But tonight we get EVEN!" - Ice-T)
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To: SlickWillard
Forget Marvel - read Johnny the Homicidal Maniac by Jhonen Vasquez.

Or my old favorites, Milk & Cheese!

Dairy Products Gone BAD!

50 posted on 04/04/2003 8:43:09 AM PST by FierceDraka (Semper Fi, Do or Die, Gung Ho Gung Ho!)
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To: hchutch
Actually we need both the boycott and alternatives.

PAX and then Fox may be the logicial ones to let them know that you are boycotting a left wing program. Then ask them to come up with a Pro America/American alternative.

If they know that there is a market waiting, they might develop an alternative.
51 posted on 04/04/2003 8:44:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Anti America Americans are outing themselves as their side loses in Iraq!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
an unethical president wanted Captain America to do something illegal

Just a minor correction, although Cap has gone against presidents in the past, that time it was a corrupt general.

The scene appears in the Daredevil storyline "Born Again" (which was collected in a trade paperback of the same name). One of my favorite comic book stories of all time, it also featured what I consider to be the best one-line description of Cap: "An old soldier, with a voice that could command a god... and does." (The god mentioned being Thor, of the Avengers.)

52 posted on 04/04/2003 8:45:18 AM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (BeBopALula)
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To: discostu
Please. You have no idea about Chris. The X-Men ROUTINELY touched on spiritual issues and didn't complain endlessly about racism, although it did surface now and again. His characterization and plotting were excellent. The characters SHONE and were 3-d.

53 posted on 04/04/2003 8:45:27 AM PST by =Intervention= (so freaking sick of the lies...)
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To: Rose in RoseBear
oh, ping.
54 posted on 04/04/2003 8:46:56 AM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (BeBopALula)
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To: VANHALEN2002
Is your issue in condition that looks good enough to get graded? If so, graded comics tend to be worth a lot more. Information is available at http://www.cgccomics.com/
55 posted on 04/04/2003 8:47:33 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Mac Raboy, C.C. Beck, Kurt Schaffenberger, Jack Kirby...I miss those guys. And heck, I wasn't even alive in their heyday (most of 'em). But for my money, nobody will ever beat...


56 posted on 04/04/2003 8:53:45 AM PST by TheBigB ("When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you."--Chuck Norris (wish he'd say it to Daschle))
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To: SlickWillard
Let's not forget about all homosexual characters. First in The Hulk, and recently in Green Lantern. I've heard that a homosexual superhero is coming, as well.

I stopped collecting comics about 5 years ago (at wife's insistence). While I still yearn for a good read, it was getting ridiculous to see 5 monthly Spider-Mans and Batmans; only so many good writers out there. The new Ultimates, from what I've been able to see, have been pretty good.

57 posted on 04/04/2003 8:55:33 AM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: hchutch
Of course in this cynical age, things have to be "edgy" to sell.

How can one produce something edgy enough to sell without dying of cynicism?

This is a problem with the right: We tend to see things in a black and white way, while shades of gray make plots more interesting.

The black and white view seems the truer one, but it creates corny plots.

How can one create something on the right side without being corny?

D
58 posted on 04/04/2003 8:57:00 AM PST by daviddennis (Visit amazing.com for protest accounts, video & more!)
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To: =Intervention=
Please I read three years worth of X-Men, X-Factor, New Mutants and whatever the hell other spinoff he made (Dazzler, but I never liked that one) and EVERY SINGLE story was about racism. His characters and plotting WERE excellent until about 1987 and then all he could talk about was racism, he went down the complete crapper unable to come up with any story that didn't revolved around evil short sighted white men trying to kill all the muties. I was a big fan of the mutants series; my comic book reading was mutants, Dr Strange and Batman, and Claremont ruined everything he touched. I'll give him credit for making it golden first, but along with that credit must come the blame for destroying half a dozen fine comic book series with endless monotonous soapboxing. Probably the worst part of the whole thing was that the stories SUCKED, if you're gonna expect me to pay a buck and half to be preached to at least make it mildly entertaining.
59 posted on 04/04/2003 8:57:23 AM PST by discostu (I have not yet begun to drink)
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To: daviddennis; hchutch
How can one create something on the right side without being corny?

Deal with the interior person as well as the exterior actions.

We aren't moral by nature, but only by habit--and it's very easy to break that habit.

Let a reader or viewer SEE that wrestling with shades of gray must ultimately be backstopped by black and white, lest one lose their way.

60 posted on 04/04/2003 9:01:10 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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