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U.S. faces repercussions if weapons are not found
Newark (red)Star Ledger ^ | 4/16/03 | JOHN HASSELL

Posted on 04/16/2003 6:35:05 AM PDT by Incorrigible

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To: Incorrigible
I have a simple question for all those who doubt there are WMD's.

If they didn't have them, why didn't Iraq show us where and how they destroyed them?

Even So-Dumb isn't so damn dumb not to that someone from the Bush clan rarely makes a threat that's not followed up with action. So why didn't they show the UN Inspectors where and how they destroyed them? They admitted to having various AND LARGE quantities of WMD's in the mid-90's . . . SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

21 posted on 04/16/2003 7:50:23 AM PDT by geedee
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To: Incorrigible
"Imagine how difficult it would be to find 10 kilos of cocaine in New York City,"

That's not too hard. All you have to do is....

Er, never mind.

22 posted on 04/16/2003 7:53:43 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Diogenesis
Great post! BTTT!
23 posted on 04/16/2003 7:56:27 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Esse Quam Videri)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

"If we don't find fairly large stockpiles of these weapons, in quantities large enough to pose a strategic threat to the United States, then the president's credibility will be seriously undermined, and the legitimacy of the war repudiated," Cirincione said.

Here is the kicker. They don't just want evidence of WMD - they want enough to pose a strategic threat to the US. 9/11 was not a strategic threat to the US - a few buildings and 3,000 people (from a strategic point of view) is not a threat to the US.

The liberals are raising the bar. We now have to find enough WMD, ready to go (not just in the developmental stage) to threaten the continued existence of the US or it was an illegitimate war.

We aren't going to win this war of expectations. Why worry about it?

24 posted on 04/16/2003 8:02:58 AM PDT by BruceS
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To: BruceS
We aren't going to win this war of expectations. Why worry about it?

Precisely. We are dealing here with an audience for whom no proof at all will ever be considered sufficient. These, after all, were the same ones insisting that there was "no proof" of any linkage between Iraq and al Qaeda until the evidence demonstrating that linkage became overwhelming. Instead of admitting that they simply shifted their attack to WMD and looting. Should convincing evidence of WMD turn up they'll simply shift to the claims that it isn't enough and that it is fabricated. It is silly to desire the moral sanction of those who are determined never, under any circumstances, to grant it.

25 posted on 04/16/2003 8:17:21 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: BruceS
When we document the chem/bio finds, along with proof of an active nuclear weapons program they're going to have a hard time spinning it as "So what if he was developing nuclear weapons in violation of all UN agreements - that's no threat to the US."

There also going to ahve a hard time spinning the effectiveness of inspections when it is proven that - yet again - Saddam was trying to develop nuclear weapons right under the inspector' noses.
26 posted on 04/16/2003 8:20:25 AM PDT by Chameleon
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To: Billthedrill; BruceS
I can already hear them six months from now:

"There is no evidence that these weapons, in the amounts that have been discovered, could kill every human on the planet, as the Bush Administration claimed before rushing into this war."

27 posted on 04/16/2003 8:24:37 AM PDT by dead
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To: Incorrigible
Who cares about WMD other than those trying to make Bush look bad? saddam bankrolled the WTC attacks, both in '93 and 9/11. This being the case, who needs WMD as an excuse to kick his sorry a$$??
28 posted on 04/16/2003 8:34:46 AM PDT by mil-vet
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To: Diogenesis

29 posted on 04/16/2003 8:37:35 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: mil-vet
saddam bankrolled the WTC attacks, both in '93 and 9/11

Proof or speculation?

30 posted on 04/16/2003 8:38:17 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Tell that to the Iraqis who were forced to watch their families tortured and killed.

Terrible things. Maybe it should be US policy to attack every horrible dictator in the world. Agree?

31 posted on 04/16/2003 8:40:47 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Protagoras
Maybe it should be US policy to attack every horrible dictator in the world. Agree?

Careful there. You got some sarcasm on your tie.

You'll find some here that would agree with the US doing that. Perhaps it would be better if the US had said nothing about WMD and laid the proof of terrorism support on the table and gone in to take out Saddam for the atrocities his regime has been guilty of performing on his own people. Then no one would could express anything except "shock and awe." And a grudging respect.

I and many Americans feel a straight out, stand up fight is preferable to letting the NSA and CIA handle things like they tried in El Salvador and other countries. Those turned out so well, don't you think?

32 posted on 04/16/2003 9:07:29 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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Those turned out so well, don't you think?

I wasn't aware that El Salvador was a threat to our country.

You'll find some here that would agree with the US doing that

So many, it's frightening.

It's right there in the Constitution, "The Military shall be the world's policeman and shall attack every country who abuses anyone else."

</ sarcasm> (there, that keeps my tie clean)

Gort! Marenga.

33 posted on 04/16/2003 9:23:43 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: templar
All the credibility we need just rolled across Iraq like a megaton of bricks. Even if we did nothing more than make an example of Iraq I would be glad we did it and support making future 'examples' of countries that continue to plot our downfall.
34 posted on 04/16/2003 9:27:48 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republic of Iraq)
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To: Protagoras
According to Israeli intel (about two days after 9/11), proof.
35 posted on 04/16/2003 9:39:22 AM PDT by mil-vet
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To: mil-vet
Convienient that the reference to another country's intel is cited as proof by you, but not by the President or anyone else.
36 posted on 04/16/2003 9:48:25 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Incorrigible
You gonna join Saddam's army and attack with UN forces, JOHN HASSELL?

Or as they used to say in the old days, repercussions?
You, the French the UN and what real army?

37 posted on 04/16/2003 10:06:57 AM PDT by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: Incorrigible
You gonna join Saddam's army and attack with UN forces, JOHN HASSELL?

Or as they used to say in the old days, repercussions?
You, the French the UN and what real army?

38 posted on 04/16/2003 10:07:32 AM PDT by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: Protagoras
I wasn't aware that El Salvador was a threat to our country.

Don't worry. The Gubmint is always able to make up a reason. The War on (some)Drugs or some such.

39 posted on 04/16/2003 10:53:14 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Protagoras
Clearly, you want to pick a fight - forget it! Believe the data or don't, but don't get in MY face - you couldn't stand the consequences.

ESAD

BT

40 posted on 04/16/2003 10:54:24 AM PDT by mil-vet
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