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Fla. Teacher Failed Math Test 6 Times
Local6.com ^ | April 27, 2003

Posted on 04/27/2003 8:25:39 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29

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To: bannie
In my experiences, this is not possible. If one has a minor in a subject required, he/she may teach that class; but, I believe, he/she may not teach that course for an extended period without furthering his/her education in that subject area.

OK - but which one of us is going to volunteer our children to be in that teacher's class while she teaches a subject???

41 posted on 04/27/2003 9:18:39 PM PDT by nanny
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Check the "corrected" English papers that your own children bring home. You will be appalled. The teachers make no effort to correct the papers in a manner that teaches a child the "correct" approach.

I was seated next to a "teacher" who was "correcting" papers. The papers were atrocious. She gave many of them very high marks. I would make her position open immediately based on that performance.

42 posted on 04/27/2003 9:19:42 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Mark Turbo
Your Florida teaching certificate is in the mail.
43 posted on 04/27/2003 9:22:46 PM PDT by exit82
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To: org.whodat
Actually, math is not a required subject in education unless you plan to teach math. I took math as an elective in college.
44 posted on 04/27/2003 9:22:51 PM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: Dan from Michigan
If she's an ENGLISH teacher, why is a math test so important? As long as she's not teaching math, I don't see the need for it.

Perhaps she ought to be able to compute the percentage a student gets correctly on a multiple choice test. She ought to be able to pronounce her room number too.

She's also a treasurer of the Hernando Classroom Teachers Association for which one supposes a minimal knowledge of math.

45 posted on 04/27/2003 9:28:47 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
This doesn't prevent all the wise from asserting that children are better off in public schools than in home schooled circumstances.

46 posted on 04/27/2003 9:31:41 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: AUsome Joy
Actually, math is not a required subject in education unless you plan to teach math. I took math as an elective in college.

I never got my undergrad degree because I'm, um, mathematically challenged also. Doesn't mean I'm stupid, and I can do day-to-day arithmetic just fine. But I never could get through algebra, and that's that. I've never seen a college where I could have gotten a bachelor's without at least some college math, so I let it go. I've managed quite well despite the lack of degree. I don't demand that standards be lowered just because I have a problem.

Someone who calls herself a teacher, especially of high school students, ought to pass the test even if she does just teach English. If she can't, she should be an aide or write books or something similar which doesn't require basic college level math competency.

47 posted on 04/27/2003 9:41:26 PM PDT by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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To: Myrddin
Pray tell, how is this poor teacher going to grade her students English papers with a "math block". She can't average their grades, she can't scale their grades, nor can she figure the median in the class to know which pupils are behind and need attention, or those smart alecks in the class that are disruptive and that pass the course without effort.

When I was on the local board, it was amazing to see letters of application written by certified teachers in all subject areas. A lot of them have no idea when a paragraph ends or begins. The same with spelling. The truth of the matter is that when a student starts flunking out in college, the recourse is to enroll in the education school. This way the dummies and lazies become teachers.

48 posted on 04/27/2003 9:43:27 PM PDT by meenie
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Teaching is a multi-faceted job: you need knowledge of the subject matter; you need to be able to convey that knowledge; you also should be able to discipline and motivate and there is record keeping entailed with the job, too.

These tests are, I am told by the teachers I know, simple for the college-educated. Disciplining is something learned by experience--be it personal or gleaned from others.

Bottom line for me is that the job requirements are out there. A person should do what is necessary to comply or realize that they are not qualified for the job.

49 posted on 04/27/2003 9:45:16 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: 4mycountry
That Florida ballot needs to be revised again. It doesn't have all of the communist/socialist party candidates (a clue as to why the Rats are courting the extreme leftist voters):


50 posted on 04/27/2003 9:49:28 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Hey, I am a product of the Hernando School District......ummm never mind. ;-)

At least I didn't have to go to Pasco County schools!

51 posted on 04/27/2003 9:49:51 PM PDT by CARDINALRULES (Don't let people drive you crazy when you know it's in walking distance.))
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To: lawdude
If DNC Chief Rat earned $18,000,000 on a $100,000 investment, how good of a sweetheart deal did he get?
52 posted on 04/27/2003 9:54:19 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: meenie
One of the papers that received a grade of "A" included the sentence, "Me is Ok". That was one of the best sentences on the paper. Most "sentences" were incoherent and full of grossly mispelled words.
53 posted on 04/27/2003 9:54:40 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Mrs. Bill Clinton earned $100,000 on a $1,000 investment in pork futures. How much could she have earned if she invested the Clinton Legal Defense fund using similar manuevers?
54 posted on 04/27/2003 9:56:12 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Myrddin
Wasn't that the title of a book? "Me is OK and Y'alls OK too"
55 posted on 04/27/2003 9:57:22 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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Word problem:

Agore's legal team produced a net X "new" votes for the Algore scampaign after the first legal challenge. At the same time it produced a net A "new" votes for his chief rival. After the second legal challenge, Algore's scampaign had a net change of Y votes while George Bush was now found to have a net change of B.

Continuing along this progression, how many legal challenges would it have taken Algore to beat George Bush in the 2000 campaign?

56 posted on 04/27/2003 10:03:48 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Ruth A.
I must agree with you! To give this gal a pass on her qualifications is ludicrous; and, further, would provide tacit acceptance and/or endorsement of the rampant "dumbing down" policies pervading our failed Educational System.

Terminate for cause -- and send the all-important message: "Our children deserve the same quality of support that we demand on a daily basis in the marketplace and workplace.

This is not rocket science !!

57 posted on 04/27/2003 10:04:14 PM PDT by dk/coro
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To: The_Reader_David
I'm in California:)
58 posted on 04/27/2003 10:17:40 PM PDT by bannie (Carrying the burdon of being a poor speller--mixed with the curse of verbosity)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Heaven forbid if she should decide to redistribute grades assigned to students based on a curve. Plotting the curve alone could send her into convulsions and computing a deviation could outright kill her.
59 posted on 04/27/2003 10:25:28 PM PDT by DeltaZulu
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To: nanny
...but which one of us is going to volunteer our children to be in that teacher's class while she teaches a subject???

To have a minor in a subject should mean that one is entirely proficient IN that subject.

60 posted on 04/27/2003 10:25:33 PM PDT by bannie (Carrying the burdon of being a poor speller--mixed with the curse of verbosity)
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