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President Bush vs. The G-d of Israel
Women In Green - By eMail ^ | Sunday June 8 2003 | Ruth and Nadia Matar

Posted on 06/08/2003 4:07:35 AM PDT by Brian Allen

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To: MEGoody
}We must remember that Israel is a secular state, not a theocracy. Just because they bear the name "Israel" does not mean this is the "Israel" God is refering to in those passages.

Well stated.

81 posted on 06/09/2003 10:43:28 AM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls History. He who controls History controls the future.)
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To: Brian Allen
"scripture not to be interpreted"

Excuse me ... then how do you explain the scripture which says, "rightly dividing the Word of GOD". If we are commanded to rightly divide the Word then we must have to interpret it correctly.

Don't you think??
82 posted on 06/09/2003 10:48:23 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: MatthewViti
Thanks!
83 posted on 06/09/2003 12:05:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

What, Diddly, you don't believe in Bible Code? Geez, it's there for all to see. Bush is the Antichrist! His push for a mideast peace proves it!

Be Seeing You,

Chris

84 posted on 06/09/2003 12:09:53 PM PDT by section9 (Yes, she's back! Motoko Kusanagi....tanned, rested, and ready!)
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To: Marysecretary
Thank you
85 posted on 06/09/2003 1:13:03 PM PDT by KKing
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To: Brian Allen
Scripture is intended to be believed and to be obeyed, not to be "interpreted!"

I hope upon reflection you'll realize how silly this statement is, you can't believe and obey what isn't properly understood.

86 posted on 06/09/2003 2:13:31 PM PDT by Maigret
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To: grumple
<< Relax a bit. >>

Whoops, sorry. Was a bit past my bedtime.
87 posted on 06/09/2003 9:39:51 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Maigret
<< I .... realize how silly this statement is .... can't believe and obey what isn't properly understood. >>

1. Try reading the black parts on the page and ignoring the white -- that'll help and;

2. Get a guide and mentor -- it's dangerous to go it alone in matters spiritual.

Blessings -- Brian
88 posted on 06/09/2003 9:43:26 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MatthewViti
That is exactly right Our Heavenly Father gave and he also took away and it is Written that He will restore. So it is in our Heavenly Father's hands not mans.
89 posted on 06/10/2003 5:51:45 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: af_vet_1981
The population of the Roman Empire cannot be compared to the population of the earth today. There is no way that Rome produced the amount of food in one year that this country does in a year.

No I am talking about this nation its blessings and how it is that from this nation all others have receive its bounty most usually without a spear or shot ever being fired or some nation taken control of.
90 posted on 06/10/2003 5:56:24 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: DensaMensa; The Ghost of Richard Nixon; yonif; American in Israel
The descendants of Isaac and Jacob were to be given the promised land. Ishmael was not to receive it, he was to be a wild man. God did honor Ishmael. He promised that he would be the father of 12 rulers and a great nation, and he'd be fruitful. BUT in his sovereignty, the Lord established His covenant with Isaac (a miracle sent by God), who was the child of promise. The title to the promised land of Israel passed from Abraham to Isaac, and then to Jacob. Ishmael was the child of Abraham's attempt to fullfil God's promise through his own efforts.

"Behold, you are with child, and you shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, Beacause the Lord has heard your affliction. He shall be a wild man, And every man's hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren." (Genesis 16:8-12)

That scripture is a very true prophecy.

91 posted on 06/10/2003 6:10:57 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: MatthewViti
}The descendants of Isaac and Jacob were to be given the promised land.

That works for me. When then are those descendents? Jacob had 12 sons, but only the offspring of 3 of them were a looooooooooooooooooooooong time later called Jews. How about the offspring of the other 9 sons? Does the land belong to them too?

92 posted on 06/10/2003 6:54:00 PM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls History. He who controls History controls the future.)
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To: Brian Allen
You just can't make up your mind, you first say the Bible doesn't need interpreting, just 'believed and obeyed' and then you say one needs a mentor. Presumably to help interpret it.
93 posted on 06/10/2003 6:58:22 PM PDT by Maigret
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To: Maigret
<< ..... one needs a mentor. Presumably to ..... >>

My mentor tells me presumtion preceeds piss-poor performance and is the mother of all screw-ups.

Maigret was, for a time, my favorite show.

And then there was Prisoner.
96 posted on 06/10/2003 8:46:35 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
There are no Arab moderates.

Now we know where you are coming from.

97 posted on 06/10/2003 11:22:32 PM PDT by SubMareener
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
Remember to take your meds! ;-)
99 posted on 06/11/2003 3:36:46 PM PDT by SubMareener
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