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Oppie Was A Commie
Accuracy In Media ^ | June 27, 2003 | Notra Trulock

Posted on 06/27/2003 9:05:38 AM PDT by walford

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To: BADROTOFINGER
As I have already said, there were obviously Communists out there. The Venona project confirms that. I'm merely saying that McCarthy's behaviors did more harm than good in the fight against Communism.

No one seems to want to talk about McCarthy's mythical list. That seems to be a lie he is allowed to repeat.

Yes, and his drinking started after the media started slamming him. My guess would be that the horrors he saw in wartime (as a decorated pilot in the Pacific) were a little worse than a few mean comments in the press.

Why do we even care what the media says or is biased towards anymore? FoxNews exists, and is a potent player. We have FR, and numerous other websites. Ann Coulter sells more books than anyone else. It seems to me we're winning but we're still afraid of shadows. We need to just shut up and shrink the government.
41 posted on 06/27/2003 1:43:49 PM PDT by Buckeye Bomber
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To: ThomasMore
Which ten?
42 posted on 06/27/2003 1:46:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
The Hollywood Ten
43 posted on 06/27/2003 1:51:17 PM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: steve8714
Opie is a Comie?

Vicious lie started by Ernest T. Bass.

44 posted on 06/27/2003 1:51:47 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: walford
Einstein was a admirer of the gulag system of government too. Which is why the Army kept him at arm's lenght.
45 posted on 06/27/2003 1:51:54 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: steve8714
Opie hung around with Floyd too much.
46 posted on 06/27/2003 1:54:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase (........The bartender yells, "hey get out of here, we don't serve breakfast!")
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To: ThomasMore
I thought McCarthy had nothing to do with the hearings on Hollywood communists- he was conducting hearings on communists in the Army.
47 posted on 06/27/2003 2:00:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Buckeye Bomber
The problem lies in the misconception that people have -- put in their heads by media -- that innocent Communists were crucified by governmentism denying their freedom of speech in political expression. Not so. The blackballing was done by movie merchandising moguls afraid of lost revenues, not McCarthy.
48 posted on 06/27/2003 2:00:53 PM PDT by My back yard
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To: Tai_Chung
Was McCarthyism good for the United States?"

Hell YES!!!

49 posted on 06/27/2003 2:03:44 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: DPB101
Einstein was pro-socialist, but with reservations. It turns out his reservations were correct.
50 posted on 06/27/2003 2:03:53 PM PDT by Moonman62
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To: walford
Ron Howard is a commie too I think. :)
51 posted on 06/27/2003 2:09:19 PM PDT by Impy (Sharpton/Byrd 2004!! The Slave/Massa Ticket!!)
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To: Buckeye Bomber
McCarthy was right on the money and any number of comsymps claimed to be in the government WAS TOO LOW. That is the only criticism of him which is valid.
52 posted on 06/27/2003 2:09:55 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Buckeye Bomber
Msg #27: I don't personally blame that [pointless or ridiculous "Red Scare" excesses like the renaming of the Cincinnati Reds] on McCarthy. But he created the environment that allowed it to happen.

Msg #29: He found an issue people had real fears about, and there were obviously Communists in this country, so he played it up...

Well, which is it? Did he create the "environment" or did he respond to it?

53 posted on 06/27/2003 2:12:11 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Larry Lucido
I KNEW there was somthing about that kid! LOL!

That RED hair should have been our first clue!

54 posted on 06/27/2003 2:12:15 PM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Moonman62
Einstein was president of the Committee of Jewish Scientists, Writers, and Artists of the United States.Ben Zion Goldberg was on the executive committee. At the start of the Cold War, Goldberg was in the USSR writing propaganda for Stalin which appeared in the New York Post, the New Republic, The Tronoto Star, the Saint Louis Dispatch and various other publications. While in touring the USSR, Goldberg was finishing up a book titled England, the Opponent of Peace.

I'm sick of giving those who supported a regime worse than Nazi Germany the benefit of the doubt. They knew.

55 posted on 06/27/2003 2:14:08 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Buckeye Bomber; walford
Many links re McCarthy and "McCarthyism" in the following recent thread:

Tailgunner Joe--Where Have You Gone, Joe McCarthy?
various FR links | 06-26--03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Also, on the reality of the Communist threat -- within the United States Government -- that McCarthy was dealing with, see the following:

Venona Project Homepage, NSA (Decrypted Soviet Cables, Coulter source for Treason book)
National Security Agency ^ | July 1995 (Documents Made Public)

56 posted on 06/27/2003 2:18:03 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Buckeye Bomber
Why did he try and cover-up a break-in that really didn't involve his office? He would have won in 72 without the break-in anyway.

I hate to tell you this, but not only is most of what America has been taught about Joseph McCarthy total Bravo Sierra, most of what America has been taught about Watergate and the real reasons for the burglaries is also Bravo Sierra.

57 posted on 06/27/2003 2:25:52 PM PDT by jpl
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To: Gorzaloon
Maybe they will finally lay off poor old Dr. Teller for a change, too. Once again, he was right.

Thank God for sending us Joe McCarthy and Dr. Edward Teller.

Stan Ulam too.

58 posted on 06/27/2003 2:31:34 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Buckeye Bomber
There were better ways to stop the Communists than get drunk and call everyone you disagree with a Red.

And just whom do you imagine did this?

59 posted on 06/27/2003 2:34:07 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: DPB101
Einstein was a long term cohort of Szilard, another nuclear physicist who was found to be a spy. I believe that Einstein was reponsible for bringing nuclear spy Fuchs on board.

The NYT conveniently omits printing this sort of information.
60 posted on 06/27/2003 2:34:14 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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