Polygamists see open door for acceptance

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, July 4, 2003 | Ron Strom

[Torie]

The religion has a very modernist adaptibility to changing conditions, and changes when it is prudent to do so, sort of like a CEO doing his job. That is a key to its success. Deal with it.

[Sabertooth]

Here they come!

Right on cue.

[Elsie]

Sorry, but the millions of LDS members are the ones who have to 'deal with it'.

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Shifting sand doesn't make for a very strong foundation.

[johnb838]

That guy was marrying them when they were 14. OTOH, 14 is a common age of consent, so why should the state be able to say they have to be 16 or 18? What gives them the right to enforce that sort of morality. Ooh. I hadn't thought of that. This IS truly scary. Only way to protect your daughter will be with a shotgun.

[johnb838]

Bestiality was already not prohibited under Texas law.

Of course it wasn't. What are them A&M boys sposed to do when they gets lonely?

[Sabertooth]

I will let you know when the legal elites decide polygamy has cachet.

A few years after "Heather has Eight Parents" is included in the syllabus.

Foolish lawyer, it's teachers that are omnipotent.

[johnb838]

OTOH, 14 is a common age of consent,

OTOH, why not 12? Who are you to say it's wrong?

[johnb838]

In fact my cousin (2nd) is real cute and she's almost 12...

[Grig]

"Can anyone find, anywhere in these words, a direct command from 'god' to STOP the practice?"

Elsie has had this answered to her many times, but for the rest of you...

If you read the whole OD1, you will see this:

"But I want to say this: I should have let all the temples go out of our hands; I should have gone to prison myself, and let every other man go there, had not the God of heaven commanded me to do what I did do;"

That's good enough for every faithful Mormon. The fact that it is an Official Declaration makes it the same as scripture to us, the word of God commanding an end to the practice.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is already established in nations that DO allow polygomy, but members are still prohibited from practicing it there or anywhere else. It is only an acceptable practice when divinly authorized, and the Church no longer has the authority to authorize plural marriages.

The courts did not take that authority from the Church, and the courts can't grant it either. Nor will you find it easy to find a faithful Mormon who has any real desire for the lifestyle, obligation, responsibilites, rules, and public opposition that go hand in hand with plural marriage so I really doubt there will be any serious effort by any group of faithful members to get the laws changed. Even when it was OK, less than 5% of Mormons did practice it.

[dighton]

One cannot eat breakfast all day,
Nor is it the act of a sinner,
When breakfast is taken away,
To turn his attention to dinner.
And it's not in the range of belief,
To look upon him as a glutton,
Who, when he is tired of beef,
Determines to tackle the mutton.
But this I am willing to say,
If it will appease her sorrow,
I'll marry this lady to-day,
And I'll marry the other to-morrow.

-- Trial by Jury.

[Consort]

The more esoteric and arcane meanings of freedom, freedom of religion, separation of church and state, etc., are beginning to surface and this is just the tip of the iceberg.

[johnb838]

I can see instances when for survival of the 'tribe' it is necessary to allow and promote multiple mating. OTOH, in this time when war and/or disease have not ravaged one gender or the other, take one and leave the rest for somebody else.

[Torie]

Well one must always cover one's flanks, to deflect and defeat those who would aspire to usurp the throne. I have a plan for teachers. One must always have a plan.

[Paulus Invictus]

The guy (named Green with four or five wives), was thrown in jail but not for practicing polygamy. He was jailed for child abuse of a minor child (14 years old) that he "married" and sexually abused.

The real problem with the local brand of polygamists (by the way, they are not Mormons!), is that they are also cleverly raiding the treasuries of two states, Utah and Arizona. They live mostly in two towns stradling the border of the two states. They make state money by making sure their wives and many kids are collecting Social Security bennies, as well as welfare and food stamps, perhaps from both states at once as they may have two houses on each side of the border (?). With as many as five or six wives and several kids, their monthly stipend may amount to significant income. Many of them have businesses too and are hard workers.

On the Arizona side, it is said that they build large homes they never seem to finish so they pay lower property taxes on the houses as being "under construction."

The local polygs are doing well and their numbers are growing. They are also the most unattractive people imaginable. The women dress in home-made dresses and long socks or men's trousers under their dresses. They wear no makeup, braid their long hair and they all tend to be about 50 pounds overweight. The men dress in cowboy clothes and are uniformy unfriendly.

[johnb838]

Who are you to say they aren't Mormons. Maybe they say that LDS aren't the true mormons. Who is anybody to say anything about anything?

[restornu]

Are you one of those folks who believe every things is relative therefore there is no wrong?

[Paulus Invictus]

Specifically, the polygs are not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.There is no such organization known as the "Mormon Church."

As there is freedom of speech, especially on this Forum, I can and do say quite correctly the polygs are not LDS and not Mormon either.

[fishtank]

At A&M, there are plenty of female humans for companionship, in contrast to Austin, where they can't keep enough gerbils stocked in the pet shops.

[fishtank]

Everyone knows the LDS will go back to polygamy as soon as it's legal.

[Jhoffa_]

Sure, why not?

Since we can't make laws based on accepted custom and morality the door is now open to all manner of things.