UC BERKELEY STUDY - What do Hitler, Mussolini, Reagan and Rush Limbaugh Have in common....

UCBerkely News ^ | 22 July 2003 | Kathleen Maclay

[zencycler]

* Fear and aggression
* Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
* Uncertainty avoidance
* Need for cognitive closure
* Terror management


To me, this sounds more like the talking points for the DNC:

* Fear and aggression - Scare the voters, and shout down opposing viewpoints

* Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity - Which party is it that won't allow speakers on the other side on controversial issues at their convention (i.e. abortion)

* Uncertainty avoidance - Like, let's not privatize social security, because who know what could happen

* Need for cognitive closure - Like "Where is Saddam?" "Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction"

* Terror management - Which party is it that believes terror can be "managed"? Be nice to them and maybe they'll be nice to us, so hold summits and kiss their wives on the cheek. Maybe this time they'll keep their word, so let's try another deal with North Korea, shall we? It's the Dems who seek terror management, but the conservatives who know that terror cannot be managed, but must be vigorously opposed

[listenhillary]

That's pretty cool. It's also right on the money.

[Ramius]

No, conservatives go through complex intellectual machinations and ultimately arrive well-reasoned conclusions. These are borne out of a knowledge of the facts and allow for effective decision making.

Or, said in an another way: Conservatives have principles. The concept of "principles" completely confounds liberals. They have no way of dealing with the concept.

Principles are somewhat akin to pre-indexing a database for a query. Response to the query for a pre-indexed item can be near instantaneous. Why? Because we knew what we wanted in the first place. Makes deciding on the destination that much easier. Liberals are completely unable to grasp this.

[Old Sarge]

This reads like a C-minus Freshman paper. Please, somebody tell me this wasn't actually written by professors.

Yes, my FRiend, it was! It's standard practice to have your undergrads and grad candidates do the research for your academic treatices.

My response would be: Analyze THIS!

[Let's Roll]

Hey, Berkeley, you know that little recall thing that is going on in your state?

... you're next.

[rustbucket]

Hitler was a right-wing conservative? Barf. That is like asking which was the conservative communist, Stalin or Trotsky? One of them was bound to be more conservative than the other, so now we can call that one a conservative, right? What logic.

Hitler was a statist, someone who favored the rights of the collective or state over the individual. That is pretty far away from someone on the American right who might favor limited government (or at least a government under rational control) and the bill of rights as protection against the powers of a central government.

Hitler helped write the 25 points of the Nazi Party in 1920. These points included:

Nationalization of corporations,
Expropriation of land without compensation,
Communalization of big department stores
Elimination of interest income
The state must reconstruct education system
A strong central authority.

There was a reason for the "Socialist" in the National Socialist (Nazi) party name. They were left-wing racist nationalists, though the left doesn't want to admit it. Perhaps the only thing the Nazis were to the right of was the Communist Party.

[Salman]

• * Fear and aggression -- the human condition.

• * Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity -- no one more than leftists. And Hitler. If anything W tends to be a bit too ambiguous at times.

• * Uncertainty avoidance -- no one more than leftists.

• * Need for cognitive closure -- psychobabble.

• * Terror management -- As opposed to terror mismanagement?

[Euro-American Scum]

This reads like a C-minus Freshman paper. Please, somebody tell me this wasn't actually written by professors.

Probably a graduate student. Consider this for a Berkeley graduate final exam question:

You find that after years of the finest education money can buy, all financed by taxpayer money, government grants, and student loans you have no intention of paying back, that you cannot find a career position commensurate with the extermely high standards of personal, intellectual and financial excellence you require. Who is to blame?

A. Evil white heterosexual males.
B. The mean-spirited Republican Congress.
C. Greedy corporate executives.
D. Rush Limbaugh.

Cross reference all answers and show how all possible answers point directly or indirectly to the vast right-wing conspiracy controlled by George W. Bush.

I'm sure the Berkeleyites could write a dissertation on it.

[glaux]

Well reasoned ponts...and without hint of anger or fear!

[Salman]

That is like asking which was the conservative communist, Stalin or Trotsky?

Why Stalin, of course tovarishch. Trotsky was an objectively counter-revolutionary left-deviationist.

I thought everyone knew that ;)

[SCHROLL]

hmmmmm, let me think here

Fear and Agression-I can see something here, just not what they see. We send our troops across the globe to quell the fears of the downtrodden and end the agression of others against them.

Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity-sure I can see it, we're rather dogmatic about what's right and what's wrong and damn intolerant of those that seem to want to live in a world of gray shadings to excuse their behavior or stupid choices

Uncertainty avoidance-yup, nailed us again. We're pretty certain about what we believe and avoid the traps they fall into making excuses for themselves.

Need for cognative closure-yeah, once in a while we hope you libs would actually get it so we could move on to solving the next problem.

Terror Management-see Afghanistan and Iraq. Not quite what they're thinking I suppose.

I'm guilty as charged I guess.

[Ohioan]

The major problem with this is that Hitler and Mussolini were leftists, not conservatives. They were (dare I say it?) SOCIALISTS!!!!

Absolutely. Hitler was to the Left of Roosevelt, but so similar to Roosevelt in his approach, that German counter-intelligence, at the start of the War thought that the only reason that Roosevelt was pro-British rather than pro-Nazi, was because he was jealous of Hitler's greater success in installing a similar system.

To understand just how far Left Hitler was, and how the Left has used the Big Lie that he was on the Right, see The Lies Of Socialism.

William Flax

[glaux]

"frontal lobotomy..."

Perhaps this is what they mean when they are always 'seeing the gray areas.'

[Cathryn Crawford]

Look at this, guys.

[RepPhil]

Studies show that liberalism is linked to brain disorders.

[nightdriver]

"While most people resist change, Glaser said, liberals appear to have a higher tolerance for change than conservatives do."

That depends totally on just what the change is. Try to change the Roe v. Wade decision and listen to the "liberals who tolerate change" whine and yelp!

[Yardstick]

This is the same crapola that every 19-year-old newbie posts at DU at one time or another, thinking that they've thought up a devastating new critique of conservatism. It's like a mile marker in their developement. At age four, a child will draw the human form with arms and legs attached directly to the head. At age 19, a budding leftist will decide that conservatives are the way they are because they "fear change". Then they'll post their revelation on DU or IndyMedia. Spend any time at one of these sites and you're sure to witness one of these 19-year-old-leftist-coming-of-age posts.

This "conservatives fear change while liberals thrive on it" stuff is just so silly. Liberals embrace the dynamism and innovation that naturally come with having the state running or regulating everything < sarc >. Why don't they see that one of the essences of their ideology is the trading of opportunity for security? I guess they like to imagine themselves as pioneers and risk-takers as they snuggle up under their favorite blanket.

[Publius6961]

They all loathed perverts and deviants?

Just as a silliness aside, they probly all ate tomatoes, too.

Have a nice day.

[dancusa]

Conservatism a mental disorder? Where's my SSI(stupid)check?I'm a victim give me my money(sarcasm).

[b4its2late]

It's fun watching the libs go off the deep end. If they couldn't write and "publish" this stuff, they'd be jumping off the bay bridge.

So, life is sacred, even if it's a liberal.