Exile Leaders Quit GOP Over Migrants' Return

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[Cincinatus' Wife]

Isn't it interesting the mainstream media can find it in their "hearts" to report this? And in such detail. Gosh.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"That is why the Miami Herasld stated in 1998 that 566,000 Hispanics can not read English and prefer to read their Spanish paper called El Nuevo Herald."

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Let's see, an unattributed statistic that refers to all Hispanics in Miami (most recent immigrants in Miami are South or Central American, not Cubans) in a misspelled post by an FR newcomer whose posts indicate may well be a DU troll? Somehow, I don't believe this "fact" should carry more weight than the fact that approximately 80% of Cuban-Americans in Florida voted for George W. Bush over Al Gore in 2000. Had only 75% of Cuban-Americans voted for Bush, Al Gore would be president today without need for a recount in 2000. (DJ, please correct my numbers if I over- or understated the Cuban vote for Bush in 2000.)

By returning those Cubans to Fidel Castro's hands, we are pretty much signing their death sentence (remember how just a few months ago Castro executed, after a 1-day "trial," 3 men who took over a boat to escape Cuba). This reminds me of the ship full of Jews escaping from Nazi Germany that FDR would not allow to dock in the U.S. What the hell is President Bush doing? I have rarely had reason to criticize our President, who for the most part has done a truly remarkable job, but this decision is insane. I hope Bush apologizes to freedom-lovers and anti-Communists in general and Cuban-Americans in particular and changes this obscene policy post haste.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"the fact that approximately 80% of Cuban-Americans in Florida voted for George W. Bush over Al Gore in 2000. Had only 75% of Cuban-Americans voted for Bush, Al Gore would be president today without need for a recount in 2000. (DJ, please correct my numbers if I over- or understated the Cuban vote for Bush in 2000.)"

I don't have the hard % myself. I heard some claim that it was closer to 90%, but that might be overstating it (though in Miami-Dade, it just might not be at all). But this policy absolutely HAS to change now. Cubans will not be slaves to any party, they are far too smart and savvy. If the GOP neglects their issues, you better believe they'll bolt. Why shouldn't they if they do (or any group for that matter) ?

[Militiaman7]

So it's ok to extinguish the light of liberty to Fidel's Cuban hostages?

Trying to excape communism is still ok in my book. If they can make it to US waters then bring them on.

BTW I grew up in the deep dark hills of Appalachia and I know poverty first hand, maybe not urban poverty like in Miami or NYC or DC but poverty nevertheless.

[Militiaman7]

Thanks for your service. I always like to meet fellow vets whether on FR or on the street.

The 12 days thing is, usually most new members of FR wait awhile before jumping into the fray and if not they are plants from DU or someother disrupter site. Evidently you are not one of them. Welcome aboard.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"You say you consider that it is not a crime to hijack a boat or plane solong as Cuban refugees can escape Cuba."

Yup.

"So you are not for the rule of law. You conveniently would commit a crime to justify leaving Cuba."

Yes, sir, I damn well would. I would kill any Communist with my bare hands to escape tyranny. THEY are the criminals, not those seeking freedom.

"You no doubt want Cuba to be a democratic nation, but how will it ever be if all their nationals leave? The more cowards that leave Cuba instead of remaining to fight Castro, the longer communism will remain there."

That's very easy for you to pontificate on what others living under tyrannical regimes OUGHT be doing. Have you forgotten what Castro does to his political opponents -- and their families ? Would you have told the Jews to step being "cowards" and remain in Germany fight the Nazis despite being outnumbered and killed on sight for offering violent opposition ? Or Soviet Jews fighting Communists there ? Yup, very easy to tell people what to do when they live with freedom, quite another when you don't have it.

"I served my country in the military. I did not go AWOL to Canada or the Bahamas!"

Congratulations. You ever been to Cuba ?

"Some of these cowards that leave Cuba do more work than if they stayed there to get rid of Castro which I am not for either."

I don't call these people "cowards", sir, I call them heroes. Anyone willing to risk their necks to get through the shark-infested waters of the Florida Straits to get to freedom earns my respect. In fact, if I happened to spot one of these heroes floating in the water offshore, I'd extend them the common courtesy to swim out and help them ashore and welcome them to freedom. Obviously you wouldn't show them the same courtesy.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"That is approximately 30 percent of Miami-Dade County's total population who are out of sync with Miami's English speaking citizens and get their instructions from multiple Cuban exileSpanish language radio stations that espouse the most outrageous statements but are not contested and they get their elderly not too educated Cuban exiles to follow the pied piper without knowing what the real truth is. The approx.30 percent who only know Spanish causes inability to discuss political.. economic..social..etc matters with Cuban exiles and that is why Miami is in a continuous friction between ethnic groups and is no cohesion on discussions of multiple complex issues."

Ah, so only you are enlightened enough to tell Cuban exiles what the "truth" is ? My, what arrogance. Lemme guess, you probably thought sending Elian Gonzalez back was a GOOD idea, am I right ?

[fieldmarshaldj]

While you're bellyaching about how bad off Miami is, might I suggest you take a good, hard look at Havana. Perhaps when you see how "well off" they are, you might be rather ashamed of yourself, sir.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"You say Cuban refugees will do anything to get to the U.S. including giving their lives. Well why instead don't they stay there to give their lives and fight Castro until there is a democratic government?"

With what military backup, sir ? Again, what part of "Castro kills his opponents" do you fail to understand. Do you think it's as easy as defeating your opponent in an election to transform Cuba ? For someone who claims to be so well-informed, you come off as incredibly ignorant.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"Why continue old stale 40 year policies that do not work?"

Why should we reward a tyrannical regime ? Cuba suffers not because of an embargo, but because of CASTRO. Remove Castro and the Communist cancer, and then we can happily lift the embargo.

[fieldmarshaldj]

And what, pray tell, do you think happens to those Cubans who are forceably returned to an evil regime ? Do you think all is forgiven ?