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Ground-Breaking Srebrenica Guilty Plea
global policy ^ | Emir Suljagic

Posted on 08/09/2003 8:13:24 AM PDT by alternatediscourse

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To: Seselj
It's God's truth, and the fact that you think that a terrorist thug was a good man is only proof that you either don't know the difference between good and evil, or DO know... and have decided to worship the latter.

Why don't you post a picture of Rudolph Hoess too? Or Heinrich Himmler?
41 posted on 08/10/2003 3:22:31 PM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
You mean for defending his country against islamo-fascists? And refusing to let muslims rip away a portion of Serbian land? HOW DARE HE?! Yes, he truly is an evil person!
42 posted on 08/10/2003 4:11:17 PM PDT by Seselj
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To: Seselj
He was a robber, a thug, an organized criminal, a rapist, a murderer, a human monster, and he had terrible taste in techno-pop music. He got what he deserved. Milosevic had him assasinated, you know. And you think him a hero? My God, what kind of a human being would think that?
43 posted on 08/10/2003 4:59:38 PM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: bluester
Actually, I don't think it's so much debate as it is seeing whether the opposition will come up with some new exculpatory theory or rely upon the completely discredited efforts of liars and deniers who came before them.

So far, this thread's been just a rehash of old material.

As far as it ending, as soon as the Republika Srpska is absorbed back into Bosnia, and the final status of Kosovo decided, the game will be over, and the denizens of the Balkans can worry about whether their distinct cultures will survive integration with the EU, rather than worrying about ever more irrelevant interethnic borders.

44 posted on 08/10/2003 5:14:53 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: bluester
totaly forgot about your high school days........

well bro', if the Slovenes aren't gonna help pick up the slack in Eye-raq then what kind of Allies are they ?

45 posted on 08/10/2003 5:19:16 PM PDT by ehoxha
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To: Hoplite
there you go again.........advocating the violation of peace treaties (Dayton 1995) and US sponsored international law (UNSCR 1244).........

what is it with those who prmote islamo-fascism ? why can't they respect rule-of-law ?

How's the Free Rustem Mustafa campaign going ? About as well as the Naser Oric Fan Club ......................

Hoplite, the longer the ICTY hearings go on, the more the lies of the Clintonistas are exposed. Keep defending you Bosnian and KLA Jihadists...............no one else does anymore, everyone else has finally accepted the truth

46 posted on 08/10/2003 5:24:51 PM PDT by ehoxha
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Where do you get your info from, www.islam.ba? He was a hero who fought bravely and selflessly to defend his land from a foreign occupation force. And his music was the best. The funny thing about you Serb-haters is that you all talk a lot of smack, but none of you can back up any of your ridiculous assertions with hard facts.
47 posted on 08/10/2003 5:36:56 PM PDT by Seselj (CCCC)
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To: Seselj
why don't you remind them that Teddy Roosevelt and the Roughriders were paramilitaries.........:) :)
48 posted on 08/10/2003 6:06:30 PM PDT by ehoxha
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To: Seselj
Great tune, I will be listening to it as i resume my ride tommorow at 0900am from Uzice to N.Pazar then to Raska via Leskovac/Kosovo. Srpska Garde, Brace!
49 posted on 08/11/2003 7:59:18 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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To: alternatediscourse
Two things I'd pay $100 to watch:

1: Arnold Schwarzenegger telling the darkage dufe he's been terminated.

2. The spetznaz rescuing Slobodan Milosevic and taking him to some sanctuary in Russia, the more property damage in and around the Hague in the process, the better.

Item 1 is starting to look like a most probable outcome at present. Is any discussion on the topic of item 2 going on in Russia to anybody's knowledge?

51 posted on 08/11/2003 7:05:25 PM PDT by judywillow
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To: Hoplite
cant answer, huhh?
52 posted on 08/17/2003 6:00:57 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (Dosta!)
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To: Hoplite
cant answer, huhh?
53 posted on 08/17/2003 6:01:08 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (Dosta!)
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To: Hoplite
cant answer, huhh?
54 posted on 08/17/2003 6:01:08 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (Dosta!)
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To: Hoplite
cant answer, huhh?
55 posted on 08/17/2003 6:01:08 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (Dosta!)
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To: Hoplite; getoffmylawn; joan; DestroyEraseImprove; Seselj; DTA; kosta50; getgoing; Fusion; Destro
You are unable to answer the question as the proof is that they were unable to match the soil from the "death site" as they claim to have originated from.

You are a coward if you ignore this posing question. Oh, we get it, the almighty mouth hoplite has been stumped, is that it?

I guess Hoptilt can't answer this question, someone else ask the same from post 25 regarding soil sampling from the two ares of alleged killings.

56 posted on 08/17/2003 12:00:18 PM PDT by alternatediscourse (Dosta!)
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To: alternatediscourse

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From September through October 1995 the Bratunac Brigade, working with the civilian authorities, exhumed the mass grave at Glogova and other mass graves of Muslim victims of the murder operation, and reburied them in individual mass graves throughout the greater Srebrenica area. In September 1995 I was contacted by Colonel Popovic, the Drina Corps Chief of Security, and told to conduct a reburial of the Muslim bodies at Glogova. I coordinated the effort to exhume and re-bury Muslim bodies from mid-September to October 1995. This was done in coordination with the Bratunac Brigade Military Police, civilian police, and elements of the 5th Engineering Battalion of the Drina Corps. I reported on a Bratunac Brigade Commandmeeting in October 1995 to the assembled Command including Colonel Blagojevic that we were tasked with conducting the reburial operation of the Muslim bodies for the VRS Main staff.

Momir Nikolic, Statement of Fact and Acceptance of Responsibility.

Lay off the stupid pills, Zoran.

57 posted on 08/17/2003 6:47:22 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: alternatediscourse; Hoplite; getoffmylawn; joan; DestroyEraseImprove; Seselj; DTA; getgoing; ...
There is a Latin saying testis unus, testis nullus (one witness is no witness), but given that the Hague is not really a court, I suppose it's okay.

Thanks to Hoplite for (as usual) providing us with accurate and to-the-point relevant official documentation (to his/her choosing, of course -- not sure what gender we are talking about here). The message behind the message is clear: doubting Thomases please obstain! The man confessed, damn it! It must be twu! Unfortunately, it is not convincing (as usual).

Nikolich is just the kind of a guy you wouldn't trust. Even the author of this article describes him as somone who changes sides when it's fashionable! Having learned how to play by Tribunal's rules, as Mr. Suljagic says at the very end, Nikolich is providing just the kind of tailor-made ammunition the prosecutors have been looking for. How convenient!

There is one more twist to his twisted story: Nikolich was offered a "real deal" of a lesser charge and lesser sentence ("only" 15-20 years instead of life -- wow!) as if he were already convicted! Then, on the other hand, the Hague is not a real court, so pre-convictions are maybe okay..silly me.

Whatever it was, Nikolich was ready to sing -- by "the Hague rules," as Mr. Suljagic reminds us, and he is. Of course, all the orders were verbal (I suppose) so it is one witness whose word carries the weight of irrefutable "evidence!" Hmmm, and -- lest we forget -- as a result of "plea bargaining," so we know the shifty colonel is "motivated" to sing anything Carla's orchestra will play. But, the unanswered question remains, what is his motive?!

I wonder if Leo Strauss had his hands in this one too? Never mind. The fact is that until a complete an accurate census is taken, no one will know how many people have died in Bosnia, and when the actual deaths are tabulated, and majority of the vicitims identified, one more thing remains to be deternined -- how they died. Not all those people died by being shot by Serbs! Until then, everything is a speculation at best and orchestrated "evidence" at worst. The truth needs to be determined, the suspects need to be brought to justice, but not for political expedience or, worse, because some already "know" the truth (those who usually can't handle it)!

I wonder if Nikolich read about the prison in Sweden that Bilyana Plavshich is going to spend the rest of her life in -- the vacation resort (which American media call high-security) "prison" that makes Plavshich's treasonous dealings transparently clear. Even if found not guilty (ha, that will be the day for any Serb in the Hague!), Nikolich probably made a lot of enemies by collaborating with the real enemies of the Serbs, and probably would have much less of a luxurious stay, if he were to return to Bosnia, then to spend the next 15-20 years in some Swedish resort "prison."

By the way, anybody seen Gruban? Hoplite, any clue?

59 posted on 08/17/2003 10:41:52 PM PDT by kosta50
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Poor Kosta - even dragging you into the corpses at Cincari Rd 3 and rubbing your face in the green glass shards that were carried along with the bodies from the primary gravesite behind the bottle factory at Kozluk wouldn't convince you of anything - you'd be right back here posting crap on these threads as to the need to overturn all of Bosnia to a depth of 2 meters to disprove the existence of a layer of glass shards with "Vetinka Bottle Factory" labels scattered throughout it.

RICHARD WRIGHT: When we were excavating that I was cross with my backhoe operator because he's usually so careful and I suddenly noticed as he was exploring the surface that he'd broken a bottle and dragged all these fragments across and it was unlike him. Then I quickly realised that the whole of the filling of this grave was full of broken green bottle glass. Then by very good fortune we found a collection of about a hundred or so labels all stuck together which must have been thrown out with the broken bottles and never used, gave the name of a bottling factory, the name of a town. So I said to ICTY I think there's a very good chance that there is a primary grave near this town called Kozluk in eastern Bosnia.

I went there and lo and behold there were these open holes in the ground. We found a rubbish pit behind the factory, open holes in the ground, bottles everywhere, labels everywhere and a couple of legs left behind.
source

So yeah, given this, and other physical evidence proving the movement of corpses from primary to secondary gravesites, Nikolic should have denied it to his dying breath.

Perhaps you should change that motto from "Only Unity Saves the Serbs" to "The Truth is Treason".

60 posted on 08/17/2003 11:38:13 PM PDT by Hoplite
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