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Russian submarine sinks; 2 die, 7 missing
St Paul Pioneer Press / AP ^
| 8/30/03
Posted on 08/30/2003 7:53:56 AM PDT by Valin
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:53:56 AM PDT
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Valin
To: Valin
Geez, I certainly hope that Harrison Ford was able to get off THIS soviet sub before IT sank. We just couldn't afford to lose his contributions to US foreign policy and brain surgery.
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:06:08 AM PDT
by
Tacis
To: Valin
We all drowned in the Russian Submarine, the Russian Submarine.
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:13:02 AM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
To: Tacis
There's one scene from that mivie that has always stuck with me.
Our hero is talking to a WH aide and the aide says "Now look I'm a politician. That means I spend half my time kissing babies...and the other half trying to steal their candy."
Just something to keep in mind when dealing with pols.
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:14:11 AM PDT
by
Valin
(America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
To: Valin
Oh, man, what metaphor!
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:19:35 AM PDT
by
norraad
To: Valin
Seems as if these subs have harmed more Rooskies than anyone else.
To: Valin
That was an awsome movie I thought.
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posted on
08/30/2003 9:22:09 AM PDT
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: Valin
Russia has decommissioned about 189 nuclear-powered submarines Wow.
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posted on
08/30/2003 9:22:29 AM PDT
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: Valin
I'm not a sailor, but shouldn't a submarine under tow have had a safety boat or two hovering close at hand? How about it, Navy / Coast Guard types?
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posted on
08/30/2003 9:28:18 AM PDT
by
RANGERAIRBORNE
(<i>"Audaces Fortuna Juvat"</i>)
To: Valin
The pontoons were torn off by the fierce storm
I had wondered if they had used additional floatation devices for safety's sake. Sometimes the sea is just too powerful and there's not much men can do. They may be able to use various methods to lift this sub off the bottom since 560 feet isn't that far down (with today's modern equipment).
God rest their souls.
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posted on
08/30/2003 10:57:28 AM PDT
by
Bobby777
To: Valin
You've lost another submarine?
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posted on
08/30/2003 11:05:58 AM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: Valin
The two nuclear reactors ... was shut down at the time...Are they skipping grammar class in jounalism school now?
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posted on
08/30/2003 12:54:41 PM PDT
by
EarlyBird
(The wheel is turning -- it's time for them to go.)
To: RANGERAIRBORNE
As a former submariner, I would think safety would dictate the Russian navy would have had a safety boat or an assisting tugboat around just in case.
However, the Russian navy isnt well known for safety. Especially the Russian submarine navy.
To: EarlyBird
Are they skipping grammar class in journalism school now? I have seen quite a bit of that kind of thing lately. That means the writer and the editor are deficient.
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08/30/2003 1:16:25 PM PDT
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
To: EarlyBird
They are skipping grammar in grammar school now. Is it still call grammar school ?
To: EarlyBird
If history is skipped over, why not grammar? Though with spell checkers, one wonders about the presstitute's IQ level.
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posted on
08/30/2003 8:03:26 PM PDT
by
GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
To: judicial meanz
"As a former submariner, I would think safety would dictate the Russian navy would have had a safety boat or an assisting tugboat around just in case.
However, the Russian navy isnt well known for safety. Especially the Russian submarine navy. "
I'm also a former sumariner and you couldn't pay me to ride a Russian boat.
Hey, Judicial Means, what boats were you on? I was on the U.S.S. Jack (605) and the U.S.S. Annapolis(760).
To: Carnivorous_Herbivore
Especially the Charlie and November class! They had good performance, but the crews paid for it in the worst way.
I was on the 579, 711, and 654(B).
Take care man!
To: judicial meanz
Hotel (SSBN), Echo (SSGN), and November (SSN) had the same type power plant, kinda crude. The November class got most of its performance by brute power and by having no shielding around the reactor - the latter reduced the displacement. Getting billeted onto a November class boat was like a slow death sentence. As early as the late 1960's there were rumors reaching the West of November crews with no hair and leukemia. Of the three classes of Soviet first generation nuke boats, the Echo II's were the last to be operational, the last decommissioned in 1994. The last Hotel boat was decommisioned around 1989.
To: Fred Hayek
I wonder if any mortality studies have been done of former Soviet submariners and their death rates from radiation related illness?
It would be interesting in reading.
Thanks for the info
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