Another study backs MS claims over Linux

ZDNet ^ | Sept 11, 2003 | Andy McCue

[N3WBI3]

Sadly no, many companies in house apps have a powerbuilder on the desktop interface..

[pyx]

The report comes in the same week that a Microsoft-sponsored survey of just 12 companies claimed firms could save up to 28 per cent by developing certain programs with Windows rather than Linux.

"Just twelve (12) companies", huh ? ... Filed in the round drawer ...

[Gee Wally]

"For those users, migration costs will be very high because all Windows applications must be replaced or rewritten,"

I'm guessing he means in-house applications here, not Office-type suites, etc.

Isn't Microsoft pushing for those apps to be written/rewritten in .NET anyway? So how is it an added cost if Microsoft is pushing for migration to its .NET paradigm? I think a more accurate assessment would be achieved by comparing the cost of converting to where Microsoft wants those apps to go, .NET, versus Linux and Java or whatever.

[Question_Assumptions]

I'd recommend looking at PostgreSQL as an alternative to MySQL. Both have features that the other lacks but PostgreSQL is more "enterprise" level than MySQL, in my opinion.

[Dataman]

Users should fix or tweak their OS's and quit griping about their lack of computer skills

IOW Windows is broken out of the box.

Apple works out of the box.
Linux works out of the box.
EcomStation/Server works out of the box.
Windows still crashes after you download the 10 patches waiting to be downloaded.

In my experience, those that have no problems with windows 1) think regular os crashes are normal, 2) use it for little more than e-mail, and 3) think Rush Limbaugh is a computer guru.

[Rain-maker]

I have no probs, and use memory intensive graphical programs 14 hours per day.
You obviously don't have any concept of 98Lite or XPlite.

Get a clue of who: http://www.datadoctors.com

Now be a good stereotyping schmuck by listening to Hannity for puter tips and ctrl-alt-del your way thru life.

[D-fendr]

Hundreds or even thousands of applications would need converted... Hardly a justifiable cost.

Don't forget to add in the costs your now incurring in testing patches, doing critical updates, and rolling all this out.

I would imagine Slammer and the IE patch cost a pretty penny. If you're using SQL Server, you have a whole nest of security costs.

Sure there's security with any OS, but MS leads the pack by a very large amount.

[Leroy S. Mort]

Isn't Microsoft pushing for those apps to be written/rewritten in .NET anyway? So how is it an added cost if Microsoft is pushing for migration to its .NET paradigm?

Because you won't HAVE to rewite 'em to have 'em run on Windows 2010 (or whatever). If you want 'em on Linux, you betcha they've gotta be rewritten. Not a difficult concept. We're talkin' desktop apps here.

[FastCoyote]

"Because you won't HAVE to rewite 'em to have 'em run on Windows 2010 (or whatever). If you want 'em on Linux, you betcha they've gotta be rewritten. Not a difficult concept. We're talkin' desktop apps here. "

Yes a difficult concept. I think you are a bit ignorant of where Microsoft and RIAA are taking you. The new file system in Longhorn is encrypted, look up DRM. Already, Exchange Server and a lot of other products are not forward compatible. Office 2003 requires 2003 server for full implementation. Backward compatibility is no longer guaranteed - the same way DOS was moved aside.

[Leroy S. Mort]

Yes a difficult concept. I think you are a bit ignorant of where Microsoft and RIAA are taking you.

Well, since I'm running Longhorn Alpha on my test box, I'd beg to differ.

The new file system in Longhorn is encrypted, look up DRM. Already, Exchange Server and a lot of other products are not forward compatible. Office 2003 requires 2003 server for full implementation. Backward compatibility is no longer guaranteed - the same way DOS was moved aside.

Explain exactly how this prevents me from running a legacy Win98 app for example.

[Leroy S. Mort]

Oh, and re: DOS being moved aside, you can still run many DOS programs on XP. Some of my customers do just that.