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Bishop Takes Queen
Riverfront Times ^ | August 25, 2004 | Malcolm Gay

Posted on 08/26/2004 3:38:43 PM PDT by corpus

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To: sinkspur

IT's the RIverfront TImes which is less objective than the Post-Dispatch and not in a good way. The whole purpose here is for them to divide and conquer.


21 posted on 08/26/2004 6:06:57 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Flying Circus

Who in their right mind takes the RFT seriously? And remember, I said right mind.


22 posted on 08/26/2004 6:09:21 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona

How's the morale among the priests in St. Louis? Has Burke been a unifier?


23 posted on 08/26/2004 6:09:44 PM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Desdemona

Liberal deacons from Texas who don't know any better?


24 posted on 08/26/2004 6:12:31 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: tridentine; Desdemona

See Post 1 and 18.


25 posted on 08/26/2004 6:12:52 PM PDT by corpus
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To: Flying Circus

Did Burke take the profession of vows of a transgendered nun? What do you think of that?


26 posted on 08/26/2004 6:15:10 PM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

More important than being a "unifier" is that he is on God's side.

If a bishop comes into a diocese where half the priests are homosexual heretics, he had better bring the sword, not the bunny slippers.


27 posted on 08/26/2004 6:24:02 PM PDT by dsc
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To: sinkspur
I think I want to hear more of the story. Vows of chastity, poverty, etc are open to any lay person. He may have made himself a eunuch, but he can still repent of his perversion and chastity is the only option now.

I won't deny it sounds bad, but I also doubt it is being portrayed honestly given the agenda of the publication.
28 posted on 08/26/2004 6:25:04 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: dsc
If a bishop comes into a diocese where half the priests are homosexual heretics, he had better bring the sword, not the bunny slippers.

Is the balance to homosexual priests transgendered nuns?

29 posted on 08/26/2004 6:26:03 PM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Flying Circus
I won't deny it sounds bad, but I also doubt it is being portrayed honestly given the agenda of the publication.

Ms. Helmueller wrote a letter to the Papal Nuncio. Does this Catholic laywoman have an agenda?

This weirdness is on top of the building of a $25 million shrine in a small Wisconsin diocese.

30 posted on 08/26/2004 6:29:32 PM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

I in no way condone what has been done (it is beyond words), but assuming this man was repentant of his horrible crime, where is a repentant man with a female anatomy to go? I find it inconceivable that anyone's answer to that would be an active women's religious order. Actually, with the exception of capital punishment I can't think of an acceptable solution.


31 posted on 08/26/2004 6:30:29 PM PDT by bonaventura
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To: GirlShortstop

The article has at least TWO facts dead wrong. Svea was NOT the superior of the ICK in Wisconsin, and was NOT a Monsignor.

But he was convicted and is in the slammer.


32 posted on 08/26/2004 6:46:21 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: sinkspur

Uhnnnn, Sinky, I recall you defending to the HILT the Bishop of Rochester (?)--something about a priest who committed suicide after a little go-round with the Bish...

Are you morally certain that this nun IS what's claimed in an article which is flawed in other regards?

Good heavens! Burke consolidated a couple of parishes in a town with a diminishing population!!!

And, my o my, a Father left in disgust. Are you aware of all the circumstances on that one? I am. And there's a very good reason why this screed doesn't mention it.


33 posted on 08/26/2004 6:49:57 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: BlackElk

Ping re: ICK


34 posted on 08/26/2004 6:50:56 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
Uhnnnn, Sinky, I recall you defending to the HILT the Bishop of Rochester (?)--something about a priest who committed suicide after a little go-round with the Bish...

I didn't defend Hubbard (bishop of Albany); I took on the attorney who keeps bringing suits against him, one John Aretakis.

The guy's a shyster, and has been proven to be a shyster.

35 posted on 08/26/2004 6:52:02 PM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: bonaventura; corpus; sinkspur; Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; ...

Concerned Catholics ping! I trust Desdemona's judgement in this manner, in that the source publication of this article is less than trustworthy. I find it both odd and interesting that corpus and sinkspur seem to be on the same side, attacking Bishop Burke's character when his public actions have been quite laudable.


36 posted on 08/26/2004 6:53:14 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Desdemona

You'll LOVE this: the queer rags do a hit on Burke.


37 posted on 08/26/2004 6:53:18 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot

Thanks for clarifying this for me, ninenot. I had never heard of this guy before, and I found out about the Institute last year.


38 posted on 08/26/2004 6:54:54 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: ninenot
You'll LOVE this: the queer rags do a hit on Burke.

We are posting a fag rag on FR? Well this is a religion forum and Satanism is a religion so I guess it is allowed.

39 posted on 08/26/2004 6:54:59 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (For vitriol press one, for name-calling press two, for personal attacks press three...)
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To: tridentine
Svea, who was serving as superior

TDY post. The superior was out on leave.

40 posted on 08/26/2004 6:56:06 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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