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In defense of Father Malachi Brendan Martin
Seattle Catholic ^ | March 2003 | William H. Kennedy

Posted on 10/29/2004 3:05:40 PM PDT by thor76

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To: thor76
I believe Kathleen Keating was close to Fr. Martin- She has not appeared on Coast to Coast AM for some time- she is one of those Catholic Endtimes-Antichrist talking heads and she is quite on the kooky side but in one of her weekly updates I found this:

"In answer to whether or not the satanic rituals in my book are fiction or based on truth, sadly, they are true and the rituals continue in churches all over the world, including St. Peter's in Rome. A former cardinal of Chicago, now deceased, was supposedly a main participant in these despicable black masses. I don't have any current information about the Holy Name Cathedral. I do doubt, however, if the deceased cardinal's coven has disbanded entirely. The odds are against it. There is an American cardinal alive today who does actively conduct black masses and seeks newborn infants for human sacrifice.

Before I ever started writing and talking about this cardinal, I did a lot of research about the man, the people connected with him and the murders that take place during the black masses. I have spoken to law enforcement personnel in the cardinal's diocese who are familiar with the cardinal and his dark goals. It was confirmed that law enforcement is aware of the cardinal and his sadistic penchant for newborns. You have to remember that the cardinal doesn't comb the streets in his clericals looking for suitable victims. He does, however, have people working with him who are assigned the monstrous task. Fortunately, his people are not always successful in obtaining a child.

Certainly, there are holy bishops and archbishops in this country like Archbishop Chaput in the Denver diocese.

We should pray for the protection of holy bishops and priests who are fighting the dark side. "

41 posted on 10/31/2004 1:41:23 PM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: AlbionGirl
Three weeks ago I went to a Solemn High Tridentine Mass at St. Mary's in Washington,DC. Since there is none in my state I had to resort to flying, too far to drive. I haven't been to a Tridentine Mass since it was banished around 1970. It was everything and more that I expected. There was Gregorian chant, the church was full of young people and young families. Most of the women wore veils. Kneeling for Communion just seemed so much more reverent.
After Mass everyone knelt in silence for prayer.
Now I want to go back again. This could get expensive!
42 posted on 10/31/2004 1:58:15 PM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: Mark in the Old South
I have the same set of tapes and throughout M.M. makes it very clear that JPII is the legitimate Pope.
43 posted on 10/31/2004 2:02:00 PM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: marshmallow; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; 26lemoncharlie; Canticle_of_Deborah; AlbionGirl

Fr. Martin was - contrary to this article - not fully a sedevacantist in his personal position. If one reads his later books, or was a viewer of his personal website, of heard him speak, he did not necessarlity personally endorse the view of sedevacantism per se.

The proof of this is contained in his later writings, verbal interviews, etc.

What he DID do, was to explain the background rationalization of what this view is, and what it consisted of. Also, he explained the several possibilities of how it could (in theory) possibly apply to JPII.

Sedevacantism has a basis in the writings of the Saints and of the Doctors of the church. In comtemporary reality, there are some very real circumstances in which such a view may (or may not) actually have validity. But that is a whole other matter entirely.

What Martin did do in his work was to analize the situation within the church, of the present and recentpapacies, and offer a fairly balanced critique. He is well in his right - as is any Catholic - to observe and point out errors of judgement and administration on the part of a pope. He is also well within his rights, as a Catholic scholar and theologian, to point out the theoretical circumstances under which a Pope could cease to be a valid pope.

Yes, it is true that he was rebuffed by JPII, and by Vatican hierarchy in his attempts to have the church steer away from disaster.

But in his public writings he did state that - regardless of anybodies personal opinions, and regardless of the mistakes made in office, that JPII is still the Pope. And that any judgement upon his potificate will have to be made by a future generation. That is a very wise mode of thought.


44 posted on 10/31/2004 2:19:39 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: bornacatholic; AlbionGirl; Canticle_of_Deborah; 26lemoncharlie

Why....gee whiz........one would think you are Sinkspur cloaked in a new identity! The same writing style, phrasing......even the wife!

Well, regardless of whom you may or may not be, you should be ashamed of yourself - denigrating the reputation of a man who is dead, and quite unable to defend himself. The false assertions of adultery have been shown in the full article to be false. Also, Fr. Martin threatened civil lawsuit against several and various diocesan clergy, Bishops, and even his former Jesuit superiors for spouting such nonsense. Of course, under such threats of public lawsuit for liber and slander, they backed down, as they had no evidence that their accusations were of any truth.


45 posted on 10/31/2004 2:29:12 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: bornacatholic; 26lemoncharlie; glasgow; Maeve; Pio; pascendi

Many extremists like Malachi Martin because he tends to confirm their wrong idea the Catholic Church has virtually ceased to exist and/or has been co-opted by Satanists in Rome.

Hello, Sinkspur!

Now anyone who reads the writing of the late Fr. Martin, may think as they please. However he never claimed that the church has ceased to exist. But he has claimed - and such claim has been substantiated by other sources, that there are in fact Satanists in the Vatican - who are clerics, and who are doing all they can to obfuscate the rule of JPII, and to destroy the church from within.

And it should be clearly noted that there are two types of persons who serve Satan and are priests: those who literally do so consciously and through ritualistic acts of worship, and those who do in that they have been co-opted into serving evil instead of Christ.

Service to Satan does not necessarlity require a notarized contract signed in blood. Actions do very nicely....


46 posted on 10/31/2004 2:37:59 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Fast Ed97; Selous; dsc; rogator; Maeve; Viva Christo Rey; Mark in the Old South; ...

Yes, I too am quite familiar with Keating, and I agree with much of your assessment of her.

However your quote is a very important one. All I will say about that issue (regarding Bernadin...and the now living American Cardinal)......is that this is no mere flight of fancy. This is very real. Info like this has come to individuals other then Keating via various law enforcement sources. there are living laymen and clergy who are aware of this, but are powerless to stop it.

Those who have tried have paid with their lives.

These are frequently Catholic laymen & women in law enforcement circles who are sick of the cover-ups in high places of such things. There is connivance in the local political arena where this is occuring.

That such covens did exist is a fact - both in Chicago and elsewhere. And they still do. In this, Keating is not exaggerating one bit.

One must also realize that the information for Fr. Martin's book Windswept House came from such sources.


47 posted on 10/31/2004 2:50:39 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: GirlShortstop

Fr. Corapi is a good and decent priest, from what I have heard of him - and has much that is good to say.

But he, like Martin do not reveal all they know. This is prudence. Both - in their own ways - have treaded in the territory of the "dark side". Both know of evil person and situations.

Due to prudence, and the desire to avoid unnecessary legal entanglements, neither of them wisely referrs to evil doers by name. The either describe generalitites - without disclosing a name, or give the individual a fictional name.

Fr. Martin's "faction" was exactly that" fact cloaked in a novelistic/fictional form.


48 posted on 10/31/2004 2:57:54 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: AlbionGirl; nickcarraway
For some reason I'm under the impression that the Jesuit Order of old amounted to what could be classified as the Catholic Army,

There are 90 yr old Jesuits still hard at work trying to reclaim their Order and the Church. These priests are God's Marines. They die with their boots on.

49 posted on 10/31/2004 2:59:07 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: thor76; nickcarraway

Agreed. Fr. Corapi knows of the darkness within the Church.


50 posted on 10/31/2004 3:03:27 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: thor76
If pederasty, and moving pederasts around, and around, isn't an indication of Satan's prescence, I don't know what is.

I will judge Fr. Martin's books for myself. I will leave the judgement of the State of Grace of his Catholic Soul to Christ The King.

And while I'm sure there are extremists out there, they are much less of a danger to the Church than the laissez faire crew. 'Cause the laissez faire crew will have to witness a chicken on the Altar before they feel the need to pipe up.

51 posted on 10/31/2004 3:20:29 PM PST by AlbionGirl ("See how the Christians love one another." Tertullian 160-240 A.D.)
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To: k omalley
After Mass, I bought a 1962 Missal and a Baltimore Cathechism because I really know very little of what I should know about my Faith.

My Missal is a full year Missal, and it is a work of Art. I'm really excited about the Study, and I'm really glad to have a bunch of people here that I can ether-up for opinions and/or answers.

If you wouldn't mind, please say a Prayer for my younger brother who needs to be strengthened by the Lord in his work these next few weeks.

52 posted on 10/31/2004 3:30:54 PM PST by AlbionGirl (+In Sanctis Suis+)
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To: thor76
Well, regardless of whom you may or may not be, you should be ashamed of yourself - denigrating the reputation of a man who is dead, and quite unable to defend himself.

It's also very classless to denigrate one's wife on a public forum.

53 posted on 10/31/2004 3:48:12 PM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: k omalley

"Since there is none in my state I had to resort to flying, too far to drive."

How could this be? It has been several years since the pope directed the bishops to make "wide and generous" availability of the Tridentine Mass.
Our bishops are "in communion with" the Holy Father. They wouldn't stand in direct defiance of his orders, would they?


54 posted on 10/31/2004 4:07:13 PM PST by rogator
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To: rogator
Our bishop has been petitioned for a Tridentine Mass but the request was predictably turned down.
55 posted on 10/31/2004 4:29:29 PM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: AlbionGirl

You have mail. :-)


56 posted on 10/31/2004 4:47:35 PM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: AlbionGirl

Thank you! That was balanced, fair, and a very Catholic post!


57 posted on 10/31/2004 5:05:41 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: AlbionGirl
Didn't know anything about Fr. Malachi until I read this piece, and now I'm fascinated. Plan on getting to the Library this week, and looking over some of his stuff.

I'm not Catholic but I recall hearing Malachai Martin on Art Bell's show several times plus on our local talk show at least once. He was a truly fascinating man and I hope I live long enough to find time to read his books. I think of him often.

58 posted on 10/31/2004 5:19:11 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

For those who are interested in reading Fr. Martin's many books, you should look for them on Amazon.com, and on Ebay. Just do a search for "Malachi Martin", and you will frequently find used books available cheap.

On Amaazon you will find both used and new books by hom - the ones which are still in print.


59 posted on 10/31/2004 5:38:48 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux! St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: k omalley

That we have to go begging like bothersome step-children is a real wound to the heart. Who would have ever thought it would come to this?


60 posted on 10/31/2004 5:57:07 PM PST by AlbionGirl (+In Sanctis Suis+)
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