Posted on 01/27/2007 6:29:58 AM PST by NYer
I think she's right. Laypeople have actually been the leaders in the anti-abortion fight, which is all well and good. But there are things that only the clergy and, particularly, the bishops can do. And in way too many cases, they haven't been doing these things. Frustration is definitely building up. Or has built up.
Absolutely!
Phoenix AZ Bishop Tells Pro-Abortion Politicians They May Not Receive Communion
US Bishop Aquila Warns Catholic Pro-Abortion Politicians They "Risk the Possibility of Hell"
Bishops Pilla, Nolan and other bishops have followed suit.
The bad news sticks in our gut, but there is good news out there as well :-)
It would seem that this deacon was doing what all priests and deacons SHOULD be doing...........calling the pro-abortionists to account for their votes and support of killing babies!
BTTT!
I've heard of the good bishop in Nebraska but these tough guys are in the minority. I've worked in the pro-life movement and from the most part, we've had trouble getting help from Catholics. Now they're vehement on their opposition to the death penalty, though. They're like most
Democrats--save the murderers, kill the babies.
True, true.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1772335/posts
I do not want it to seem that I'm saying NO Catholics are helpful in the pro-life movement, because they are. The Catholic church itself has been weak with legislation, etc.
Why didn't he take Kennedy, Kerry and a few others with him when he walked out?
Would you go to a church where you and your sins could become the subject of public discussion on any given Sunday?
Mr. Higgens, only YOU can drive a wedge between the Church and yourself!
That vow of poverty gives a person a lot of armor against the world. I don't think most diocesan priests take such a vow.
My guess would be that the priest in question does not even hold himself accountable, so why bother with the politicians.
There is a difference between the sins that I commit, that maybe my children and my husband know of, and the public scandal caused by a pro abortion politician claiming to be Catholic. His behavior is public and as a result ought to be publically denouced. The deacon was acting in the best interest of all souls.
actually, if he is voting in favor of abortion rights then he has excommunicated himself, according the the Archibishop of St. Louis, can't remember his name...Raymond something.
It's truly sad how many Catholics have caved to the cafeteria mentality. The good news, though, is that the younger generation is turning towards solid catechesis and a more traditionalist approach to Catholic worship. Perhaps, in witnessing the slaughter of their peers, they have reflected on "there but for the love of God, go I". It is my personal contention that this younger generation will be the one to legalize euthanasia and not hesitate in applying it towards those who slaughtered their 'brothers and sisters'.
Last week was 'defense of life' Sunday. The Church asked its pastors to preach on this topic. The deacon did a superb job!
You lost me there.
HUMANAE VITAE
Neither is it valid to argue, as a justification for sexual intercourse which is deliberately contraceptive, that a lesser evil is to be preferred to a greater one, or that such intercourse would merge with procreative acts of past and future to form a single entity, and so be qualified by exactly the same moral goodness as these. Though it is true that sometimes it is lawful to tolerate a lesser moral evil in order to avoid a greater evil or in order to promote a greater good," it is never lawful, even for the gravest reasons, to do evil that good may come of it (18)—in other words, to intend directly something which of its very nature contradicts the moral order, and which must therefore be judged unworthy of man, even though the intention is to protect or promote the welfare of an individual, of a family or of society in general. Consequently, it is a serious error to think that a whole married life of otherwise normal relations can justify sexual intercourse which is deliberately contraceptive and so intrinsically wrong.
HUMANAE VITAE
RIGHT TO LIFE
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person -- among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.
Catechism Catholic Church
How exactly did the early Christians treat Gentiles and tax collectors? And by Gentiles, did they mean non-believers (non-Christians)? Gentiles also means Christians.
This may be true for the Church in Iowa, but it's not true for the Church in Missouri. Your brush has very broad strokes. I and many other Catholics would appreciate it if you'd try to paint within the lines.
In the KC-St. Joseph diocese, priests do not take a vow of poverty; they are responsible for their own retirement; and they've been expected to retire at the age of 75. If they haven't saved enough to buy a house or some kind of shelter, they usually end up at Little Sisters of the Poor. And while I believe this humbling experience is part of being a priest, perhaps some of them do not.
I also believe that most priests are not afraid of offending just "big donors," but are programed not to offend anyone.
I believe most priests are good men who strive to be Christ on Earth; but being human they are prone to human frailties. They sacrifice for the love of God. For the love of God we should be somewhat willing to support them with our prayers and good thoughts.
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