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Bishop and Priest Hasten to Apologize to Pro-Abort Politico for Homily Calling Him to Account
LifeSite ^ | January 25, 2007 | Hilary White

Posted on 01/27/2007 6:29:58 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

bookmark for later letter to CINO.


41 posted on 01/27/2007 9:33:45 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: raybbr

Let us remember that primary responsibility of a Pope, bishop, priest and deacon is to save souls. The church believes those in the hierarchy will be judged more severely. Right now I would put my money on the deacon to escape harsh judgment for his act.


42 posted on 01/27/2007 9:43:10 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: NYer

Total agreement. Last Saturday there were 20,000, mostly youth, walking for life in San Francisco. 200,000, mostly youth, marched in Washington on Monday.

Surprising but the media never mentioned attendance. San Francisco had a couple of hundred protesters as Washington did.


43 posted on 01/27/2007 9:49:46 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: NYer
A Catholic deacon has been reprimanded for taking a pro-abortion Congressman to task on his voting record during a homily on “Respect Life Sunday.”

Unbelievable. The deacon should have been reprimanded for not taking the pro-abortion Congressman to the woodshed for a good whuppin'.

44 posted on 01/27/2007 9:56:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: mad puppy

The deacon had every right to say what he said:

"Any Catholic politician who casts a vote with the intention of legalizing abortion, or of protecting laws allowing abortion, or of widening access to abortion, commits a mortal sin.

When such a vote indicates that the Catholic politician believes that abortion is not always gravely immoral, such a politician incurs a sentence of automatic excommunication, under canons 751 and 1364, because of heresy.

When such a vote is intended to have the effect of making abortion legal, or more easily obtainable, or more widely available, such a politician incurs a sentence of automatic excommunication, under canon 1398, as someone who is attempting to provide substantial or essential means for women to obtain abortions. Catholic politicians who pass laws which legalize, protect, or widen access to abortion, are providing essential assistance to women who want to have an abortion"

Priest and bishops should be careful:

"Apostasy, heresy, and schism are all offences which incur a sentence of excommunication automatically. Heresy is the obstinate denial of any truth of the Catholic faith, on a matter of faith or morals, which has been definitively taught by the Magisterium. The Magisterium has repeatedly and definitively taught that abortion is always gravely immoral. (CCC 2270 to 2275)"


45 posted on 01/27/2007 10:03:23 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: Puddleglum

Diocesan Priests, aka Secular Priests, do not take vows. Diocesan Priests promise to lead a celibate life; to respect and obey their diocesan bishop; and to live a simple lifestyle.


46 posted on 01/27/2007 10:43:22 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: mad puppy; ninenot; sittnick; bornacatholic; Salvation; Nihil Obstat
Catholics who are Catholic would not want Congressmen Higgins to go to a Catholic Church much less receive the Holy Eucharist unless and until he repents publicly his support for the killing of innocent babies and reverses his stand.

It is said that Hitler, in his youth, was an altar boy. I would not want him to be frequenting Catholic Churches, much less receiving the Holy Eucharist either. Likewise, Stalin who was a Russian Orthodox seminarian in his youth.

If Babybutcher Higgins' feelings are hurt by the truth of his eager participation in the murder of innocent babies, that will just have to be, well, tooooooo baaaadddddd! If he publicly repents and reforms his record in the future, he can expect to be welcomed but not until.

47 posted on 01/27/2007 10:44:35 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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Rev. Art Smith and Bishop Edward U. Kmiec, aka spineless cowards.


48 posted on 01/27/2007 10:44:38 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

Another weak PC Bishop, part of the reason why I no longer care when Catholic Schools are closing. You like pro-abortion democrats, you got em. Now you have anti, school-choice democrat politicians who will help control the people population by voting pro-abortion. Wait until the immigration influx will force many Catholic hospitals to close.

Link to NARAL endorsement rating of Brian Higgins:
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/states/endorsed-candidates.html

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=004524M

Rep. Higgins’ voting record can be found here:
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CNY77435&type=category&category=Abortion%20Issues

http://www.capwiz.com/nrlc/bio/keyvotes/?id=3723

Messages to Deacon McDonnell may be sent to
St. Thomas Aquinas Parish:
450 Abbott Road
Buffalo, New York 14220
Ph: (716) 822-1250
Fax (716) 822-2594
staquinasparish@juno.com

To contact Bishop Kmiec:
Diocese of Buffalo
795 Main Street
Buffalo NY 14203
Ph: (716) 847-5500
Fax: (716) 847-5557
Email: dob@buffalodiocese.org

To contact Brian Higgins:
Washington, DC Office
431 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-3306
Fax: 202-226-0347
http://www.capwiz.com/nrlc/mail/?id=3723&type=CO&lvl=C&state=NY

http://www.higginsforcongress.com/

Erie County Office
Larkin at Exchange
726 Exchange Street
Suite 601
Buffalo, NY 14210
Phone: 716-852-3501
Fax: 716-852-3929

Don't forget to write the other wimp, the pastor, Father Art Smith staquinasparish@juno.com


49 posted on 01/27/2007 10:45:43 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: mockingbyrd

Archbishop Raymond Burke of St. Louis who would certainly punish Higgins and his pastor, ummmm, with gusto!


50 posted on 01/27/2007 10:47:53 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: raybbr
Higgins has already excommunicated himself latae sententiae through his behavior. That's a fact that the congregation, including Higgins himself, should but most likely doesn't, realize. His nonchalance about the faith he claims to profess is very telling.
51 posted on 01/27/2007 10:49:15 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: NYer

I read the initial report, and it seems to me that the Deacon made a pretty low key point of it.

It was the politician who walked out, refused to let the priest visit him for an apology, and publicized the whole business.

I don't think the politician should be welcomed back into that parish church until he has made his peace with the pastor, whom he gratuitously insulted. As for the pastor, he's evidently a wimp. And we already knew that the bishop of Bufallo is a loser.


52 posted on 01/27/2007 10:57:05 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NYer
“The lesson here is that the Catholic Church has enough problems and should take greater care before allowing nonpriests [sic] to use the church as a forum to advance what clearly was a political agenda," Higgins said.

Sounds a little like a veiled threat to me.

53 posted on 01/27/2007 11:37:10 AM PST by virgil
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To: NYer
Vogel said that Deacon McDonnell was “doing his duty” and was owed an apology from the priest and bishop for their lack of support. “You shouldn't care so much about Brian's feelings so much as Brian's salvation,” she said.

Gee, it's really touching that the priest and bishop are so concerned about a pro-abort politician's feelings. Would that they would show similar concern for the millions of innocents slaughtered by the procedure so supported and advanced by that same politician.

Fr. Smith told local news that he regretted that Brian Higgins was not given the same warm welcome as that shown to Senator Clinton by Buffalo’s previous bishop, Henry J. Mansell during a prior visit at a Catholic venue in 2001.

Yep, too bad that he was not accorded such honor and laud. In fact, every public figure he opposes such a fundamental teaching of the church should be accorded such honor. I mean, these are political leaders, to heck with the Holy See.

Brian Higgins told the press that messages to his office were running 4 to 1 in his favour.

No doubt. Caligula, Hiltler, Stalin, et al., were also very popular in their time. After all, Hitler made the trains run on time, didn't he?

54 posted on 01/27/2007 12:27:51 PM PST by chimera
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To: NYer
"Smith told Buffalo News on Tuesday. “While we have to always uphold the church's teachings regarding life, I don't think it's ever fair to publicly criticize someone who serves our community and our parish so well.”

Looks like Fr. Smith doesn't think John the Baptist was a fair man. Voting to prevent parents from finding out about their children's plans to abort a child, and to force those who object to playing with embryos to pay for that activity, is act of the most evil kind. This wasn't about politics, it was about morality, life, murder, honor thy parents, ect. All in God's house, and Congressman Higgin's pretended to belong there.

His presence was pure imagery. He loved to be seen in public, and recieve the praise and blessings from his kind. God's Church is mearly his prop. Deacon McDonnell was right to call him on it. The Bishop and Pastor, should be sent to their rooms to reflect on the matter and decide who it is they serve, God, or the pretenders. They need to decide whether John was right, or whether he was wrong, and John was out of line by calling out King Herod.

55 posted on 01/27/2007 1:13:27 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Right in Wisconsin

Good email from you! There's a place for "tact", but a Church is the place for TRUTH.


56 posted on 01/27/2007 1:22:35 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: NYer

“'The lesson here is that the Catholic Church has enough problems and should take greater care before allowing nonpriests [sic] to use the church as a forum to advance what clearly was a political agenda,' Higgins said."

Here's how this works: If you aren't perfect, you cannot criticize me. If you are, you can't possibly understand.

"He complained that the homily was a 'cheap shot'”

And his remarks about the Church's problems weren't?


57 posted on 01/27/2007 2:08:24 PM PST by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: Puddleglum; narses; Salvation; sandyeggo
My admittedly anecdotal experience with diocesan priests is that many are lapdog poodles most interested in not offending the wealthy donors to their various building funds. A lot of them grow fat and soft. Not all, but since I was a kid the tough ones who live in poverty (even if it's not in their vows) have gotten scarcer.

And much grayer (or is it greyer?) :-)

A most astute observation! Though Roman Catholic, I practice my faith in a Maronite (Eastern) Catholic Church. Last week, our pastor was away on retreat but made arrangements for a RC priest to celebrate the NO Mass at our small parish. Physically, the RC priest was quite aged (white hair) and walked with double canes. It was a physical struggle for him to mount the one step in the Sanctuary and he was challenged on how to accept the offerings. He conveyed the impression of one who is quite 'feeble'. When it came time to deliver the homily, he leaned heavily on the lectern. He began by noting that this was 'Defend Life Sunday' and the Church had asked its pastors to deliver a talk on the topic of life. Father Crandall, God bless his holy soul, systematically and methodically spelled out the teachings of the Catholic Church on the gift of life. He progressed through the homily with 'supporting documentation' that he obtained from the Right to Life Party. He expounded on the need for all Catholics to educate themselves about the positions held by politicians, before going to the polls. He even went so far to suggest that a Catholic who votes for pro choice politician, is complicit in the destruction of human life that results from their election.

Our pastor delivers solid Catholic catechetical homilies each week and has been taken to task by those in the parish whose consciences are bothered by his homiletics. Needless to say, it came as quite a surprise to all of them to see and hear this "feeble, white haired, old" priest teeter forward with his two canes and deliver such an outspoken defense on behalf of the defenseless. Someone seated behind me apparently timed his homily and when it was finished, she commented to her husband - "30 minutes".

It was an absolute honor afterwards, to assist Father Crandall to a seat in the rear of the Church, to enjoy some coffee and refreshments. Several of us complimented him on his excellent homily. He was so pleased that anyone had paid attention.

The good priests are still out there and more than willing to 'teach and instruct' in the Catholic faith. Many of them are aging. Fortunately, there are others, like my young pastor, who are already filling their shoes. May God bless them all!

58 posted on 01/27/2007 2:48:12 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: mockingbyrd; mad puppy
There is a difference between the sins that I commit, that maybe my children and my husband know of, and the public scandal caused by a pro abortion politician claiming to be Catholic. His behavior is public and as a result ought to be publically denouced. The deacon was acting in the best interest of all souls.

Excellent rebuttal!

59 posted on 01/27/2007 2:53:09 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer; mockingbyrd; mad puppy
There is a difference between the sins that I commit, that maybe my children and my husband know of, and the public scandal caused by a pro abortion politician claiming to be Catholic. His behavior is public and as a result ought to be publically denouced. The deacon was acting in the best interest of all souls.

Amen sister! :-)

60 posted on 01/27/2007 2:58:23 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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