Posted on 01/27/2007 6:29:58 AM PST by NYer
God Bless this Deacon to have the courage of a real man to stand up to a so-called Catholic politician who has repeatedly on public record voted for the culture of death.
I remember when the prrish priest stopped his homily to tell the kids in the balcony to shut up.
I also remember when he told one of the girls her skirt was too short - in front of the whole congregation!
Archbishop of Atlanta and Two Other Bishops Forbid Pro-Abortion Politicians from Communion
ATLANTA, August 4, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Archdiocese of Atlanta, the diocese of Charlotte, North Carolina, and the diocese of Charleston, South Carolina have enacted a joint policy forbidding Catholic politicians who support abortion from being given Communion. Atlanta Archbishop John F. Donoghue, together with Charleston Bishop Robert J. Baker and Charlotte Bishop Peter J. Jugis issued a statement giving the reasons for the action.
The statement, available on the Spirit Daily website, notes that "Catholic public officials who consistently support abortion on demand are cooperating with evil in a public manner. By supporting pro-abortion legislation they participate in manifest grave sin, a condition which excludes them from admission to Holy Communion as long as they persist in the pro-abortion stance."
The letter also directs the priests of the dioceses not to administer Communion to the politicians in question. "Because of the influence that Catholics in public life have on the conduct of our daily lives and on the formation of our nation's future, we declare that Catholics serving in public life espousing positions contrary to the teaching of the Church on the sanctity and inviolability of human life, especially those running for or elected to public office are not to be admitted to Holy Communion in any Catholic church within our jurisdictions: the Archdiocese of Atlanta, the Dioceses of Charleston and Charlotte."
That is only the bishops you're referring to, right?
Have they ever enforced this, do you know?
Just another pro-abortion bishop? Or is he more concerned because he couldn't go to a party?
I understand your objection in general. But his sins are already public by virtue of him being a politician whose votes are part of the public record. These aren't secret, private sins outed by the deacon. They are documented by the legislature and reported on by the media.
Good. Did they follow through?
There is also the problem of a Deacon giving the sermon. That ain't kosher
Dear bornacatholic,
Deacons may give the homily in the Latin Rite.
I think it may be forbidden in the other rites, but I couldn't tell you rightly (or ritely).
sitetest
This incident illustrates my feelings about Rabbi Levin expecting the clergy of the Catholic Church to lead the effort for morality in the world. Whether due to a long period of infiltration and subversion or to inherent weaknesses in the religion the Catholic clergy are simply too far to the Left. They are certainly well to the Left of the laity.
It does not. It means non-Jews, "the nations of the world." In fact, in appropriating the role of "the new Israel" chr*stians have sometimes used the word to mean non-chr*stian (see the mormons or St. Thomas Aquinas' Contra Gentiles (Against the Gentiles).
Wasn't he a Georgian Orthodox seminarian?
Yeah, you're right. I wonder what I was thinking of? Prolly when I was still going to the Indult
I don't think they made this statement to hear themselves talk, but I personally cannot think of anything I heard about someone being turned away. I will say that perhaps a very public announcement like that discourages people from attempting to receive when they shouldn't.
That is the reason why i will never convert to catholicism, the heads of the church are toadies.
In any event, Jesus Christ did not guarantee us a Church that would be led by the sinless. Au contraire, St. Peter, St. Thomas and Judas were three chosen by Jesus Christ and some of their major sins are documented in Scripture. Since , by definition, Jesus Christ made no mistakes, we may conclude that the inclusion of Judas, Peter and Thomas was intentional and, by minor extrapolation, a reminder that, other that Jesus Christ and His Blessed Mother, all mankind are sinners. Nonetheless, Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church on Peter and guaranteed to be with us to the end. We are still here. The Roman Empire that crucified Jesus Christ is no longer here on earth and has not been for a very long time.
When present at an attempt by a mob to stone to death a woman taken in adultery, Jesus Christ said: Let he who is sinless cast the first stone. He did not cast it and we may rest assured that He was the only One there Who was sinless. For several years here (after casting a lot of stones towards reformed clergy caught in sin) I submitted to Christ's words as to clergy of other faiths. It is not that their sins are somehow acceptable but rather that judgment of them and their sins is for God. As a Catholic, I am still critical of leaders of my own Faith when they seem to deserve it, lest they succeed in discrediting the Roman Catholic Church in the eyes of its member or others.
The most sinful of priests still has the spiritual power to say Mass and to administer sacraments to the extent not precluded by his superiors. Though he may go to hell, the bread and wine still become the Body and Blood of Or Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, under the continued appearance of bread and wine, when consecrated by any priest.
Hence, it is not the Church that sins but sinners who sin and it is true in every church and outside of them all, as well, that sins are committed by individuals and not by institutions.
Spot on, BlackElk!
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