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Pope Benedict attacked by Catholic Church’s most senior theologians [Catholic Caucus]
Telegraph ^ | May 22, 2008 | Malcolm Moore

Posted on 05/23/2008 6:04:59 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

The old liberation theology priests of the left are pissed that they lost. Too bad, so sad. Cafeteria Catholicism has a stake pointed at its heart. Benedict needs to push it through.


21 posted on 05/23/2008 8:15:59 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: NYer

Hans Kueng, ho hum... Actually, I think we only need look at the Episcopal Church today to see where the Catholic Church would be today if people like Kueng had their way with unfettered “liberalization” of Catholic doctrine and polity. I’m glad that the Rock of Peter has held back the tide, so to speak, of the liberal Zeitgeist.


22 posted on 05/23/2008 9:02:53 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Ozone34
I recall a tale from Vatican II in which Kung and Schillebeecx boasted that this time the reformers would achieve their revolution within the Church as opposed to outside the Church as had their 16th century predecessors.

It's more than a tale. Some of us are still reeling from the effects of bad bishops appointed by Paul VI at the recommendation of Archbishop Jean Jadot. The following article will give you tremendous insight into what they were hoping to accomplish.

Archbishop Jean Jadot - Still Proud Of Bishops He Gave U.S.

23 posted on 05/23/2008 9:39:50 AM PDT by NYer (John 6:51-58)
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To: NYer

What a bunch of aging fools these libs are!

Wisdom never seems to embrace them.


24 posted on 05/23/2008 10:26:42 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: CTrent1564
Whatever his errors, he is right in stating that Popes are not infallible.

Do you mean infallibility or impeccability?

28 posted on 05/23/2008 10:45:18 AM PDT by JustMytwocents70
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To: JustMytwocents70

Infalliblity is distinct from impeccability, so you are correct and acruate to make the distinction. Infalliblity is give not to the Pope/Bishop of Rome in his person, but a guarantee by Christ through the Holy Spirit that exercising his role as the successor of St. Peter, the Bishop of Rome will teach, defend and correctly define matters of “Faith and morals” and not thus not teach unorthodox/heretical Doctrine.

It does not, and hever has meant, that Popes don’t struggle with the same “fallen and weakened human nature” that every human being shares in due to the consequences of original sin and thus sin like the rest of us.

Hope my explanation is clear on the distinction that you corrrectly pointed out/alluded to.

Regards


29 posted on 05/23/2008 10:49:52 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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30 posted on 05/23/2008 10:55:51 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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In all fairness to the Low Countries, Jadot and Schillebeecx have corrupted what in centuries past had been a distinguished Faith tradition. Loreto Publications has just released the first complete English translation of the “Commentary on the Four Gospels” by the 16th/17th century Flemish Jesuit Corelius a’Lapide:

http://projects.loretopubs.org/commentary/


31 posted on 05/23/2008 11:07:25 AM PDT by Ozone34
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To: Kolokotronis
I can’t speak to any discussions with Protestants, but this comment is just hogwash when it comes to Orthodoxy

Like Charles Curran, most of what Hans Kung says is hogwash.

32 posted on 05/23/2008 11:37:11 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: NYer

Hans Kung was Ratzinger’s mentor? Since when?


33 posted on 05/23/2008 11:47:41 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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Hans who?

Oh, that Hans! A passé theologian that no one reads anymore. Yep. Behold the sound of a mouse roaring.

-Theo


34 posted on 05/23/2008 1:18:59 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Excellent quote! What is it from?


35 posted on 05/23/2008 2:55:04 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...just not yet.")
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The article is a bit misleading as I was sure the theology of Hans Kung has been condemned by the CDF. Which means he is not one of Catholicism's leading theologians. He is one of the leading dissidents.
36 posted on 05/23/2008 3:06:40 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NYer

Title of the thread is intentionally misleading...

Who’d have thunk the press would do such a thing?


37 posted on 05/23/2008 3:56:29 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: TradicalRC
A very pleasant Kipling short story, "My Son's Wife". A young man who's been deluded into the 'smart set' is saved by the beautiful, eccentric, and maddening English country life.

Another one that I enjoy is "An Habitation Enforced". An American couple find themselves in pretty much the same boat.

Kipling is a master of dialogue and mood, and his perfect vehicle was the short story. He's a miniaturist - the only novel of his that I can read with pleasure is Kim. His late short stories show utter familiarity with the English countryside, just as much as Kim shows how well he knew India.

38 posted on 05/23/2008 4:27:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
History will be the judge of mediocrity, Hans.

Kung who?

39 posted on 05/23/2008 4:29:32 PM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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