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Since ancient scribes were so totally accurate ... mistakes ...? (Ecumenical)
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Posted on 02/22/2010 9:47:13 PM PST by restornu

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I have had many tell me they perfer some one who was learned in Hebrew and other languages and was one of those who did over see the Dead Sea Scrolls Project.

Co-founder and chairman (1991-2000) of the Dead Sea Scrolls Foundation. Member of the Academic Committee of the Orion Center for the Study of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Senior Associate Fellow, Oxford Centre for Postgraduate Hebrew Studies. [4]

From 1990-2009 he served as the Editor-in-Chief of the international Dead Sea Scrolls Publication Project, which during those years produced 32 volumes of the series Discoveries in the Judean Desert as well as two concordances [5].wiki


21 posted on 02/22/2010 10:42:09 PM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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To: iowamark

It is fixed now!


22 posted on 02/22/2010 10:46:33 PM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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You did it again! Post more about ‘man’!

My God is Almighty! He is WELL CAPABLE of delivering HIS Word accurately. But, seems like some make a career at trying to prove they know more than God and need to fix what ‘they’ see as His ‘errors’. Shame on them!


24 posted on 02/22/2010 10:50:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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Look what can I say some want credentials some don’t know what they want!


25 posted on 02/22/2010 11:03:40 PM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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To: restornu

Credentials? What is it? this guy is more truthful because he has more credentials? The Bible is the inspired Word of God - post HIS credentials, also. Let’s see Who will be more inclined to KNOW what the REAL TRUTH is and who is in error.


27 posted on 02/22/2010 11:10:52 PM PST by presently no screen name
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Credentials? What is it? this guy is more truthful because he has more credentials? The Bible is the inspired Word of God - post HIS credentials, also. Let’s see Who will be more inclined to KNOW what the REAL TRUTH is and who is in error.

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Can’t please everyone pnsn

It seems Tov was commenting on document in his possession and seeing the error between them.

This article expresses my point of view to me it is common sense that humans are not perfect also there are those who do things they should not as the Lord called them on it.
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It’s not just that some scribes were sloppy.

“They were condemned as a class by the Lord for their unrighteousness (”Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” in Matt. 23:39).

Evidence supports the idea that changes were deliberately made due to their religious bias.

Some early Christians reported that Hebrew scriptures had been changed to take out some clear prophecies of Christ, which was an entirely logical but corrupt response from those who kept the manuscripts and hated Christianity.

One thing is clear: there are numerous variants between the different ancient texts, both in Greek and Hebrew.

While the manuscripts agree with each other in many ways, there are thousands of differences due to the vagaries of human activity”

Just the fact that the Lord call them on it show they had bias do you really think when they harbored ill feeling towards Jesus that they are not capable of distorting the word to testify to their agenda?

People have no qualms to bear false witness against Jesus changing the word is easy compared to having an innocence man put to death.


28 posted on 02/22/2010 11:37:16 PM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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The Bible is scripture and needs to be studied with faith, but also with a recognition that it is a book printed by humans, translated by humans, copied by humans, and even originally written by inspired humans, none of whom were infallible.

Mistakes happen.

Errors creep in.


29 posted on 02/22/2010 11:42:48 PM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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I wish to respectfully offer the point that good texts were used, and wore out. Bad texts were avoided, put in pots, and would not be used if there was better, and so, had a good chance of being preserved.

One example of that is the Codex Sinaiticus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Sinaiticus";


30 posted on 02/22/2010 11:47:53 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: iowamark; restornu
As you probably know, the LDS religion depends on the theory of grave error in the New Testament, not the Old.

I wouldn't say grave error, I'd say the LDS religion seems to depend on tossing aside the bible as a whole since their concept of divinity is completely different from Christianity's
31 posted on 02/23/2010 1:33:43 AM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: restornu; presently no screen name; reaganaut

I have had many tell me they perfer some one who was learned in Hebrew and other languages and was one of those who did over see the Dead Sea Scrolls Project.
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1. Then name one or two of the “many”

2. Reaganaut is learned in Hebrew and other languages

3. I’ve seen the Dead Sea Scrolls

Why did you not just ask us if you are so interested in this subject ???


32 posted on 02/23/2010 1:55:33 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Some early Christians reported that Hebrew scriptures had been changed to take out some clear prophecies of Christ,
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Source ???


33 posted on 02/23/2010 1:58:22 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

People have no qualms to bear false witness against Jesus changing the word is easy compared to having an innocence man put to death.
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Joseph Smith comes to mind...


34 posted on 02/23/2010 1:59:29 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Just the fact that the Lord call them on it show they had bias do you really think when they harbored ill feeling towards Jesus that they are not capable of distorting the word to testify to their agenda?
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Joseph Smith comes to mind...


35 posted on 02/23/2010 2:00:49 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

The book of mormon is scripture and needs to be studied with faith, but also with a recognition that it is a book printed by humans, translated by humans, copied by humans, and even originally written by inspired humans, none of whom were infallible.

Mistakes happen.

Errors creep in.


36 posted on 02/23/2010 2:02:00 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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It would be nice instead of being unpleasant to show where you disagree with Prof Tov findings!

Yes this article was introduce on an LDS site Prof Tov is Jewish he is not LDS but he is a scholar who study most of his life biblical scriptures!


37 posted on 02/23/2010 2:03:02 AM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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To: restornu

One can ignore the abundant evidence, but it’s time to recognize that only God is the final and perfect authority, and that’s why we need continuing revelation from his authorized prophets and apostles.
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Of which there are none...


38 posted on 02/23/2010 2:04:37 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana; Religion Moderator

Much of the article you are tampering with is by Prof Tov who is Jewish he is not LDS!


40 posted on 02/23/2010 2:15:44 AM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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