"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism
or socialism on people has been by way of medicine..."
President Ronald Reagan
The Romney Origin of American Death Panels (ObamaCARE=RomneyCARE Death Panels).
Posted on 07/03/2010 12:29:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
“Faith still sticky issue as Romney mulls run: Mormonism remains hard sell for Evangelicals”
No kidding, all one has to do is visit this website and hop on any Romney thread for proof of the above.
...still trying to figure that one out...." <<<<
It's my impression that since they are so very deeply concerned about charitable work that although they are social conservatives, their missionary zeal in charitable works creates a strong liberal bias.
"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism
or socialism on people has been by way of medicine..."
President Ronald Reagan
The Romney Origin of American Death Panels (ObamaCARE=RomneyCARE Death Panels).
Are you aware that in the new health care legislation, where supposedly every American is required to purchase health insurance, that ALL CHRISTIAN SCIENTISTS ARE *exempt*!!!
What is further interesting about this is that the Mother Church of Christian Science is located in Boston, Massachusetts --- so I presume that when the first version of obamacare was instituted, which was called ROMNEYCARE, that it was a hot botton political issue in Massachusetts to NOT mandate the purchase of health insurance by the Christian Scientists in Boston. But I do NOT know if this is true, or if that is where the exemption took place first. OR if it is unique to obamacare.
Are you truly that stupid?
Mormonism seems to be a harder sell in America than Islam. Perhaps Mormons should also emphasize that their religion is a ROP.
I just don’t see a fighter in Mitt.
2012 is a battle between good and evil, between what America stands for and any other socialist dictatorship. It’ll be the showdown of the century. The differences in candidates must be stark- no compromises, the people will have to make a stand.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
>They want a Christian President who can save souls for Christ.<
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Whaaaat!? We have had Christian presidents — one who bombed Christians to save Muslims in Bosnia and one who declared Islam to be a ROP while Christians were being massacred in Muslim countries.
Give me a break.
Don't try to sell me on that. If you would vote for a Muslim you are part of the problem. By the way we have one in The White House and it doesn't seem to working out very well.
Come on tlb. You know very well how our liberal-arts (emphasis on LIBERAL) campuses know how to toss around that word as a liberal label word.
For those who delight in calling us "bigots" and "anti-Mormons," I sometimes wonder if people calling others "intolerant" are trying to showcase their "tolerance" or their "intolerance" of others? (I think FR poster, Osage Orange summed this up well one time with a Q to a poster: "I guess that makes you an anti-anti-Mormon bigot, eh?")
In light of the origin of the word "bigot" I find all this a bit ironic. Originally, the word “bigot” was developed in a Catholic context & wasn't originally aimed at anyone outside of a historic Christian (Catholic) context.
"Bigot" is etymologically tied to "Beguines." It's a French word, and was used abusively for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood, with the meaning of attaching "excessive devotion" to this sisterhood...(yeah, the devoted do get slapped around a bit). So, yes, in one way the original meaning of that word has survived as it's tied to perceived intolerance. (I don’t know if the Beguines were actually intolerant or not). The Beguines were probably at least perceived as practicing "spiritual one-upsmanship"--and others didn't like it--they felt looked down upon. Perhaps they felt scorned because such sisterhoods tended to isolate themselves more and because of that, the Beguines perhaps were perceived as being spiritually snooty (we simply don't like how excessively devoted they were).
But to wind this back to what I said. "Bigot" is originally tied to "excessive devotion." I suppose it's possible that the Beguines were indeed "excessively devoted." (It's also just as possible that the other Catholics' perception was largely wrong...but once a reputation develops...). But let's just say they were excessively devoted. If that's the name-slinging you wish to engage in, tlb, I'll just take the high road and claim a historical context.
But if you want to insist on the full contemporary usage of that term -- that "bigot" means "intolerant" -- then you need to answer Osage Orange's q I cited. Because aren't you showing religious intolerance toward us? On what grounds is your "intolerance" so "allowable" and therefore elitist, whereas anyone else's perceived "intolerance" is called into question?
I think Evangelicals would rather not have Marxist atheist Obama or Socialist, gay loving, women’s right to chose, RINO Romney.
LOL. Yes, maybe they should start blowing things up, and then the media will stop bad-mouthing them.
Tell me something-why would any evangelical vote for Obama who says he is a Christian but has never disavowed Islam over a man who claims he is a Mormon and doesn’t try to pretend he is something else?
I agree. My problem with Romney is his political principles, not his religion.
That is not the reason we elect a President. We elect him to uphold The Constitution and abide by the restrictions placed on him and The Federal Government. If you want to save your soul go to church and talk to God.
I will see if that were the election. Romney will never make it out of the primary process on the Republican ticket because he is a liberal.
He would be better served to run as a democrat.
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