Posted on 02/25/2011 3:36:52 PM PST by NYer
Just because there are three meanings to the word, it does not follow that all three apply. I think it is talking about punishment - that lasts for eternity. That is, it is final and does not get “undone”. I could be wrong, since the bible doesn’t speak of it clearly enough. I guess we’ll find out after we die.
I'd rather that your soul be saved.
Thank you!
“Does your preacher have a 35,000 square foot house and a private $8 million jet?”
No, he drives an old pickup truck and takes no pay for his work and instead directs the tithes of the congregation to missions work in Latin America and to our homeless shelter in Denver.
Very good. Will you answer the rest of the questions which may give insight into the mindset that lumps Catholics in with Protestant heretics?
“Very good. Will you answer the rest of the questions which may give insight into the mindset that lumps Catholics in with Protestant heretics?”
Since you want to go there let’s go back to your question:
“Does your preacher have a 35,000 square foot house and a private $8 million jet?”
The Pope doesn’t have a 35,000sf mansion, that’d be too small. His mansion is more accurately termed a palace.
http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1081476917048116127DESsKz
Though he does not have an $8 million dollar jet, no, his is about $60 million dollars. It’s a Boeing 777 named the Sestriere.
You’re welcome.
The Papal apartments minus the meeting rooms, library and medical facility number about six large rooms, I believe. Nice palace.
Though he does not have an $8 million dollar jet, no, his is about $60 million dollars. It’s a Boeing 777 named the Sestriere.
Interesting claim, since it is an Alitalia airplane and the Vatican has no ownership at all of it. And if you notice, each journey has a full complement of journalists; much like the President of the US. Although the Pope does not fly two identical planes accompanied by a complement of fighter jets either. Notice that I said Vatican and not Pope. The Pope actually owns very little.
When JPII died, he actually had no possessions except for his papers - remember when that all came out? The only reason that Billy Bob Rolex has no money is that he blew it all.
Now, I answered your questions; will you answer mine as to how you believe that you are Christian and saved, and at the same time lump Catholics in with various Protestant heretics?
“When JPII died, he actually had no possessions except for his papers”
Really? Isn’t that some sort of miracle that he packed up his papers and took them with him?
Actually, they are a spin off from the old Millerites, which later became the Seventh Day Adventists.
Really? Isn’t that some sort of miracle that he packed up his papers and took them with him?
Still not answering, after I answered your questions?
In many ways Calvin's god is as scary as the al Queda god.
“how (do) you believe that you are Christian and saved, and at the same time lump Catholics in with various Protestant heretics?”
On the first part, I simply do. It’s called faith.
On the second part, I never really cared one way or the other about Catholicism until I got on this forum and had occasion to interact with Catholics. The shrill, paranoid, and often militant and irrational defense of all things Catholic (and some things that aren’t) by some professed Catholics is rather cultish.
In any other context such language would be roundly denounced as that of a cult but most people just let it go. Myself, I really don’t care. All I can say is that if it sounds like a cult, acts like a cult, and etc. then it’s probably a cult.
Kosta and Kolo have it absolutely correct. Calvin's god is the OT Dagon. HP Lovecraft was very astute in making his character part of his writings. The art associated with it is horrific - the fish god warped and twisted beyond anything that God created in the sea. As Calvin has done with Christian beliefs - a tiptoe through the TULIPS, anyone?
On the first part, I simply do. It’s called faith.
Very good; on what literature or teacher does this faith come from? It obviously is not the Church.
On the second part, I never really cared one way or the other about Catholicism until I got on this forum and had occasion to interact with Catholics. The shrill, paranoid, and often militant and irrational defense of all things Catholic (and some things that aren’t) by some professed Catholics is rather cultish.
Got it. You sound rather comfy.
“Very good; on what literature or teacher does this faith come from? It obviously is not the Church.”
If you mean the Roman Catholic Church then you’re right. It goes to speak to your understanding of faith that you want me to explain it to you as some sort of Calvinistic artifice when the only fact of faith is that there are no facts involved at all. Thus it is called ‘faith’.
“You sound rather comfy.”
I am.
Actually I don't.
It goes to speak to your understanding of faith that you want me to explain it to you as some sort of Calvinistic artifice when the only fact of faith is that there are no facts involved at all. Thus it is called ‘faith’.
Fair enough.
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