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Scientific, Scriptural evidence points to authenticity of image of Jesus on Shroud of Turin
theBeacon ^ | 03.22.12 | Michael Wojcik

Posted on 03/25/2012 5:04:13 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Coleus
nor do most Christians, it’s called faith...

Some do, sadly. I've never understood the search for physical things as proof of God.

They can't possibly make Faith better. God is real whether things are or not. Faith is just that - a belief that isn't proved.

21 posted on 03/25/2012 7:08:31 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Seamus Sez: "Good dogs don't let their masters vote for Mitt!")
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To: plain talk
Why use the term “G-d”? >>

It's the holiest of names, no Jew has ever spelled God completely. I'm sure some Christians do the same.

22 posted on 03/25/2012 7:29:14 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

I understand the hunger for a physical connection or artifact that connects with Jesus. I understand the hunger for Jesus, it was a hunger that I didn’t even know I had (I thought it was for booze and women).

I think the shroud was used with Jaques DeMolay, the leader of the Knights Templar in France. He was tortured by crucifixion, but not killed until later. His death and torture occurred around the carbon dated age that’s currently given for the shroud. Perhaps that’s only coincidence.


23 posted on 03/25/2012 7:31:04 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: plain talk

The word “God” is not offensive. It’s a kind of habitual carryover from Hebrew, and really doesn’t apply to English at all, except by habit or mimicry.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/166899/jewish/Why-Dont-You-Spell-Out-G-ds-Name.htm

...We do not write G-d’s name in a place where it may be discarded or erased. Treating G-d’s name with reverence is a way to give respect to G-d. So even though on a computer the name is not really being erased (and perhaps is not really there in the first place), and “G-d” is only an English term used to translate G-d’s holy name, it is in keeping with this respect that I write “G-d” in my emails and on-line articles...


24 posted on 03/25/2012 7:43:44 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SirKit

Shroud ping!


25 posted on 03/25/2012 7:54:55 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: mountainbunny

I’ve never understood the search for physical things as proof of God. >>

Actually, there is, God is in all of us :)


26 posted on 03/25/2012 8:03:56 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: GreyFriar
I think I’ve always thought it is authentic. Or decided it was so long ago, I don’t remember having doubted its authenticity. And Veronica’s veil has no unknown period of existence to cast doubt on it.

I was open to the possibility that the shroud might be a fake, but now I am convinced that it is the burial shroud of Jesus. My faith was not and is not based on the shroud, but I believe it is an interesting and important piece of historical evidence -- and more-so because honest scientists say they don't know how the image was formed.

27 posted on 03/25/2012 8:15:22 PM PDT by zot
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 03/25/2012 8:40:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: plain talk

I’ve never known anybody to impose their usage on non-Jews, but from what I’ve seen it is a genuine form of respect for them personally. I really appreciate the honor they show through that. And I didn’t know it either, until one of them gently explained it to me. =)


29 posted on 03/25/2012 8:48:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: brent13a

God’s little joke on you? Don’t get too puffed up.he likes to remind us we are not angels. Indeed, we are better than angels, because we are more than spirit.


30 posted on 03/25/2012 8:58:10 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Coleus


31 posted on 03/25/2012 9:03:08 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: CPO retired

Jacques DeMolay was burned at the stake beneath the Pont Neuf in Paris.


32 posted on 03/25/2012 9:20:50 PM PDT by alpo
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To: Coleus; Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annalex; annyokie; ...
Shroud of Turin PING!

If you want on or off the Shroud ping list, Freepmail me.

33 posted on 03/26/2012 6:47:30 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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Thanks for the ping Swordmaker. I’ll read it later.


34 posted on 03/26/2012 7:08:06 AM PDT by csense
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To: Swordmaker

Please include me on your Shroud ping list, Thanks


35 posted on 03/26/2012 7:49:41 AM PDT by jesseam
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To: brent13a

Yeah, well, guys like you frustrate the hell out of me, in return. No matter how many times it’s said, no matter what you hear or read time and time again (e.g. it is NOT about validating your faith, it is NOT to be worshiped, etc., etc., ad nauseum), you and your ilk always just HAVE to post the same old, tired nonsense.

It’s authentic. It’s the real deal. Get over it.


36 posted on 03/26/2012 8:00:45 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

ping


37 posted on 03/26/2012 8:54:46 AM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Swordmaker

Include me on the ping list please.


38 posted on 03/26/2012 9:12:23 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: mountainbunny; brent13a
I do not need physical proof to know that God and his Son exist, are real, and are our salvation.

The Shroud is not intended to offer proof of our salvation. It is a relic that has survived from the day our Lord was buried in the tomb.

39 posted on 03/26/2012 9:13:30 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: CPO retired

DeMolay was burned at the stake. The man on the shroud hasn’t been burned, he’s been whipped and crucified.


40 posted on 03/26/2012 6:48:58 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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