About Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth

raptureready.com ^ | 2-3-14 | Gene Lawley

[CynicalBear]

This should be fun!

[CynicalBear]

Ping if interested.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

:: The directive to “rightly divide the word” tells us that there are divisions, or partitions, in the Word of God ::

The implication of “rightly divide” is equal and co-existing HALVES; any additions are smorsgasbord belief.

The Word of God (AKA, Logos...AKA:Christ) is “rightly” and “ritely” divided into (i) Law and (ii) Gospel.

All else rolls downhill from there. The so-called “dispensations” are distractions driven by the Law.

[CynicalBear]

>>The so-called “dispensations” are distractions driven by the Law.<<

So Paul had it wrong?

Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation [oikonomia] of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

oikonomia - Definition: management of household affairs, stewardship, administration. [http://biblehub.com/greek/3622.htm]

Dispensation is simply a term given to the different periods of how God has managed or administered the affairs of this world and how He deals with it’s inhabitants.

[veracious]

Yes, but “law” is more properly translated “instrution”. As in, he who loves Me, keeps my commandments.
He being the same person from the beginning of the Word to the End. He became/was/is/shall be the living Word, Torah, Instruction; here is how doing the Word/Torah looks; He showed us.

For those rightly understanding/dividing the Word: 2 Peter Chapter 3, all of it.

And as for His chosen in the last day, Rev 12:17:
“So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

Additionally, no _one_ person on the earth, during His life, called our King by the name Jesus.

[HarleyD]

“Study to show yourself approved of God, a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of God.”

I would suggest the emphasis isn't on "approved of God" but rather the we do "not need to be ashamed". Please consider the following:

1Th_2:4 but just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we speak, not to please man, but to please God who tests our hearts.

We have already been approved by God. What we don't want to do is bring discredit to our Father and our Lord Jesus by speaking "another gospel". That is why we're to study, so that we fully understand the correct gospel.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Of course not. Our modern understanding of “dispensation” is corrupted.

[CynicalBear]

>>Our modern understanding of “dispensation” is corrupted.<<

Our? Define “our”. Who is it that has a corrupted understanding of “dispensation”.

[CynicalBear]

>>Additionally, no _one_ person on the earth, during His life, called our King by the name Jesus.<<

I didn’t realize any of them spoke English for that to even be a consideration.

[veracious]

There is _no_ linguistical path from Yeshua to Jesus. It is a tradition of man, just like the traditions of the Pharisees which Yeshua was constantly correcting back onto Torah. The _church_ should be aware that He does not honor traditions which contradict His Word which _is_ Him. You cannot knowingly love Him and honor such traditions.

Yes, YHWH is pleased that man should come to know Him, at all. Our Father and fathers’ knowing, is intimate doing/being w/Him. I’m sure He is thrilled when we know Him well enough to call Him by one of His actual names. He has many titles...

[metmom]

here we go again.........

*sigh*

[metmom]

here we go again.........

*sigh*

“We’re going to be better than you because we think we say the CORRECT name of God and Jesus and you don’t.”

Not having it occur to them that even the English transliterations of the names of God and Jesus are not His actual names.

Unless one is a Hebrew from the OT days, there is simply no way to verify the pronunciation.

[metmom]

And what do the Deaf do? They can’t even say it. They have to sign it.

I’d like to see the first person come along and tell THEM they’re not doing it *right* because their sign isn’t His real name.

http://lifeprint.com/asl101/pages-signs/j/jesus.htm

http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/JESUS/1617/1

[PoloSec]

I prefer to take the meaning of a scripture verse from the context of scripture where the vs appears, 99% of the time the immediate context will define the meaning of any verse.

Now in your lesson you are all over scripture from this verse to another, from book to book and so on, none of which are in the context in which 2Tim 2:15 is written, and causes confusion for the reader, they may seem to fit together on the surface, but they don’t.

So lets look at the context and see if we can’t determine the meaning of “dividing” the meaning of dividing is “distributing” in the context, lets see how so.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
There were many at that time and even more still today who were spouting profane and vain babblings, you hear it from pulpits all the time, people who were not rightly distributing the word of truth...so in the next vs Paul gives one example of such people wrongly dividing the word of truth...

2 Timothy 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

In the next vs we see the consequences of not rightly dividing (distributing).

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
These guys were perverting and undermining the “word of truth” and overthrowing peoples faith.

The following verses thru to 2Tim 2:21 further reinforce the effectiveness of and the mandate for us rightly dividing (distributing)the word of truth, actually the whole chapter will reinforce our understanding.

Of course all this is assuming one knows what “the word of truth” is...(hint, it is not the scripture in this context), if you need help with this let me know and I’ll explain from scripture what “the word of truth” is).

Also it is required that one know what the dispensations are and how many dispensations THE SCRIPTURE say there are, not how many some so called scholar says there are. Do You Know?

I sincerely hope you do not take this as an attack, I take this all seriously, I love to converse on scripture but I do not debate scripture, God says what he means and means what he says in scripture, when you stay with the context in which he says it.

[CynicalBear]

>>There is _no_ linguistical path from Yeshua to Jesus.<<

Other than what is used in the Greek text as we have it today?

Luke 2:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS (Iésous), which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ (Christos) Jesus (Iésous):

And then says this of THAT name.

Phillippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus (Iésous) every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus (Iésous) Christ (Christos) is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

In the GREEK the Holy Spirit through Paul says that the name Iésous Jesus is the NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES.

Again to the Corinthians written in Greek.

1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus (Iésous) Christ (Christos), that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

[CynicalBear]

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

[CynicalBear]

>>Now in your lesson you are<<

You may want to keep in mind in your comments that I am not the author of the article.

>>if you need help with this let me know and I’ll explain from scripture what “the word of truth” is<<

I’m sure you would given that you didn't even realize I wasn’t the author of the article. Ooooops.

[veracious]

Ieosus to Jesus; where the Hebrew Matthew uses the word Yeshua. I am trying to raise awareness that the angel spoke to Mary and said, you shall call His name Yeshua; Mary call Him Yeshua; everyone called Him by His name Yeshua. If my name were Kiefa, would I even respond if you called me Peter? The Kingdom and the Word aside, the translation of a name is a strange thing; the spoken word of my name is not the same if spoken another way.

Yes, He is patient, far more patient than those who continue to do things their way, even after they become aware the Kingdom has/is more; from glory to glory, not stuck in traditions. And proud of them too...

[smvoice]

I am interested in your questions, Polo. How many dispensations do you believe there are? And what is the “word of truth” in your opinion?

[sasportas]

Reading the Bible in our own native language is not evil, remember God is the reason we have all these different languages (the tower of Babel event).

The Bible most quoted by the writers of the New Testament was the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament. The New Testament was written in Greek, including the gospel of Matthew. Who are the Hebrew language supremacists going to blame for this?

The Greek language, both the Septuagint and the New Testament written in Greek, being a more easily exegeted language than Hebrew, God must have chosen it for the propagation of the gospel.

It is what the name, Jesus, means that is crucial, not how you pronounce it. It means God with us (Immanuel, Matt. 1:23), becoming our savior, Matt. 1:21.