Posted on 02/07/2014 6:23:47 AM PST by CynicalBear
More of that Hebrew roots nonsense? Will we get the Michael Rood and “The way” influence soon also?
Unfortunately, with sola scriptura, “rightly” dividing is in all the eyes of the Divider.
So you’re saying to rely on God’s word alone is unfortunate? That’s rather a startling statement.
>>”So you’re saying..”
Try again. I think the meaning is obvious.
It looks to me like you simply choose which “divider” to follow proclaiming all others in error? And I would suspect that “divider” is the self proclaimed “divider” because they have self proclaimed it to be so?
Check my home page. What do you think of those divisions? You might notice similarities to the Periodic Table of the Elements, another work by the same author.
Thanks, yes:
>>_And I would suspect that “divider” is the self proclaimed “divider” because they have self proclaimed it to be so?”
That’s what I was getting at with: “rightly” dividing is in all the eyes of the Divider.
So what is “rightly” divided is determined by the Divider. And in the doctrine of sola scriptura that is self-procalmed.
I don’t think the chart you have up really addresses the dispensations. Remember that the Greek word used there really means management. In other words how God deals with man. The best division I believe are these.
1. Innocence
Do not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Gen. 1:26; Gen. 2:16,17; Gen. 3:6; Gen. 3:22-24.
2. Conscience.
Do good and do not do evil, or love what is good and hate what is evil.
Gen. 3:7, 22; Gen. 6:5,11-12; Gen. 7:11-12, 23.
3. Man in authority over the earth.
Man didn’t do so good and God destroyed all but Noah and his family.
Gen. 9: 1, 2; Gen. 11: 1-4; Gen. 11:5-8.
4. Man under promise.
Basically it was man believing the promises of God.
Gen. 12:1-3; Gen. 13:14-17; Gen. 15:5; Gen. 26:3; Gen. 28:12-13; Exod. 1: 13-14.
5. Man under law.
Obey God and keep His commandments.
Exod. 19:1-8; 2 Kings 17:1-18; 2 Kings 25: 1 -11; Acts 2:22-23; Acts 7:5152; Rom. 3:19-20; Rom. 10:5; Gal. 3: 10
6. Man under grace.
Confess Jesus as Lord and believe in His resurrection.
Began with Christ’s death and resurrection.
7. Man under the personal reign of Christ on earth ruling from Jerusalem.
The millennium.
Isa. 2:1-4; Isa. 11; Acts 15:14-17; Rev. 19:11-21; Rev. 20:1-6.
8. The new heaven and the new earth.
One could go into much more detail to understand exactly how God does deal with man but that’s it in a nutshell.
I doubt you meant to say that it is scripture that “self proclaims” but that is exactly what “Sola Scripture” means. Most don’t follow what scripture says but they follow what some other man says scripture says.
>>I doubt you meant to say that it is scripture that “self proclaims” ..
Of course not. What is “rightly” divided is determined by the Divider - who is self-proclaimed via the doctrine of sola scriptura. Again: “rightly” divided is in the eyes of the Divider.
>>”Most don’t follow what scripture says but they follow what some other man says scripture says.”
Not “what scripture says” according to you. So you - the self-proclaimed Divider in this example - say.
“Rightly” dividing is in all the eyes of the Divider.
Let’s get this straight once and for all. Catholics follow fallible man’s interpretation. They put their trust in the men who they think are better than they are at interpreting scripture. They trust in those men to tell them the truth. But it’s still men they trust in. Catholics simply put their faith in other men to “rightly divide” the scripture. That may come from a lifetime of being taught that, it may come from simple laziness not wanting to put forth the effort on their own.
>> “Rightly” dividing is in all the eyes of the Divider.<<
I put my faith in Christ alone and the Holy Spirit He promised would indwell us to be our counselor. Catholics trust men, I trust the Holy Spirit within. One day I’ll stand along side Christ and say I trusted Him and the Holy Spirit He prmised to send. Catholics will stand and say they trusted the RCC to tell them what was right.
>>”Catholics follow fallible man’s interpretation. They put their trust in the men ..”
No, that’s what you’re doing: following your - a fallible man - own interpretation. You’re trusting yourself to ‘rightly divide.’ You. A man.
Catholics trust Christ through His Church, which he established as the pillar and foundation of all truth.
That’s exactly as I said. Catholics trust is through an organization. Non Catholic believers through the Holy Spirit. Thank you for the confirmation.
>””That’s exactly as I said. Catholics trust is through an organization.
Actually what you said “Catholics follow fallible man’s interpretation.” I believe you are a man and fallible.
Christ established His Church. Perhaps “organization” is some folk’s way of denigrating it; however, I don’t think it helps their argument for sola scriptura.
Yeshua means salvation! That is not Greeco-Roman nonsense.
No,"rightly divided" is determined by the fruits.
Who determines which fruit is better?
The most important for today is the current dispensation of grace. There is much to much effort to put man back under the law in most of the religions today. The peace and assurance through Christ has been lost to many because of it.
BTW Can that 454 get into the 10s? I raced a 396 back in the 70s. My Camino only has a 350 but I’m not looking to race it either. Lot’s of work to do on it still.
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