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catholic.com ^ | March 3, 2013 | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/02/2015 8:15:08 AM PST by Morgana

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1 posted on 02/02/2015 8:15:09 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Eph 2 8-9

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.


2 posted on 02/02/2015 8:49:25 AM PST by zek157
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To: Morgana
>>And according to Romans 2:6-7, “all things” includes meriting eternal life.<<

And just now on another thread I was told that Catholics don't claim merit for anything.

3 posted on 02/02/2015 8:50:02 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Morgana

This is so much Gorilla Dust! Read your Bible and pray!


4 posted on 02/02/2015 8:50:35 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Morgana

How could One Separate their Actions from their Heart???

Thus if it is in Your Heart you will Live it in your life and while we are here in this world(flesh) living life means actions are a automatic result. Inaction actual requires a rejection of the heart.

Thanks Good Post and Truth!

God Bless


5 posted on 02/02/2015 8:52:49 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: Morgana
How long do papists intend to continue propagandizing Free Republic?

Regardless, I am concerned about a few of you because you spend so much time propagandizing Free Republic you can't possibly have time to get in your good works.

In response to the substance of the post:

he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5)

6 posted on 02/02/2015 8:59:43 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: Morgana

We are not saved by works, but the believers will show their faith by their works of love which will be a light to others.

In Church, out of Church, on the high ways, by ways, any where.

You may be the only Gospel some one will ever read.

Ephesians 2:10 - For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Matthew 5:16 - Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

James 2:14-17 - What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

James 2:26 - For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

2 Timothy 3:17 - That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

James 2:18 - Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Titus 1:16 - They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Romans 2:6-10 - Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

Matthew 7:21-23 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

James 4:17 - Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin.

2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done, whether [it be] good or bad.

Titus 2:14 - Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.


7 posted on 02/02/2015 9:03:30 AM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: Morgana

No propaganda here — just the truth.

James 2: 17-26 ...A stern warning from Saint James
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So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
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Indeed someone might say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.
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You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble.
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Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?
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Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar?
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You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works.
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Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called “the friend of God.”
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See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
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And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route?
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For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.


8 posted on 02/02/2015 9:07:53 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: .45 Long Colt
“Regarding the debate about faith and works: It’s like asking which blade in a pair of scissors is most important.”

~C.S. Lewis

9 posted on 02/02/2015 9:09:22 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Poor lost soul


10 posted on 02/02/2015 9:11:08 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Salvation
James (a saint just like me) wasn't speaking on the topic of fundamental salvation. He was speaking to the already saved on how to live a christian life.

And now for something completely off topic, is Mary omniscient?

11 posted on 02/02/2015 9:14:07 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: zek157

“For [God] will reward every man according to his works: to those who by perseverance in working good seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. There will be . . . glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality” (Rom. 2:6–11; cf. Gal. 6:6–10).

So, which quote from St. Paul is right?


12 posted on 02/02/2015 9:15:21 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: .45 Long Colt
How long do papists intend to continue propagandizing Free Republic?

Is this supposed to be a Protestant-only zone? Who knew?

13 posted on 02/02/2015 9:16:39 AM PST by Campion
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To: RnMomof7
Poor lost soul

Well, yes, but we can't know every detail of a soul's relationship to God. Perhaps Luther made it to heaven after all.

14 posted on 02/02/2015 9:18:01 AM PST by Campion
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To: Morgana

Error begets Error. If ive ever seen a more perfect explanation of the Roman church, I cant remember it.

All one has to do is look at Christ, and then look at the pomp, finery, wealth, violence including outright warfare, property, and political power of the Roman church to realize that they are the polar opposite of anything Christ ever lived.

Error begets Error.


15 posted on 02/02/2015 9:24:34 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Morgana
Error Begets Error

Indeed it does ... just look at how Mary went from a young girl to a sinless birth to being assumed to heaven to being queen of heaven to "co-redemptrix"...

16 posted on 02/02/2015 9:25:21 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: .45 Long Colt

“How long do papists intend to continue propagandizing Free Republic?”

Probably until the day after you stop using the word “Papists”. When will that be? Doomsday? Well, we’ll be posting from Heaven. I doubt they’ll have Wi-Fi where you might be at that time.


17 posted on 02/02/2015 9:26:34 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: ravenwolf

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Jhn 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Jhn 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Jhn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jhn 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

Jhn 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins.

Jhn 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment::9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Jhn 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses

Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Faith and belief are the flip sides of the same coin

Jesus never taught salvation by works, in fact he taught just the opposite

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

What is the will of the Father?

Scripture says this is His will for men

Jhn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The will of the Father is that we believe, so what does Jesus say to the man that thought his works would earn him salvation ?

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

That mans WORKS which he did in the name of Jesus were called SIN (iniquity) by Christ. Why?

Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.


18 posted on 02/02/2015 9:27:40 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Campion

“Is this supposed to be a Protestant-only zone? Who knew?”

No it isn’t. But at any given time, a standard scroll down view of posts often has as many as 6 Catholic propaganda pieces. And they are filled with the cultist view “we are the only church and here’s why the others are heretics”.

It gets tiresome.


19 posted on 02/02/2015 9:27:54 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Campion

**Perhaps Luther made it to heaven after all.**

I sincerely doubt it.


20 posted on 02/02/2015 9:30:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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