Posted on 04/22/2015 2:34:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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It’s curious to me that Jesus’ death on the Cross - which was for the remission of sin (TO ALL THOSE WHO ACCEPTED JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR), is not relevant to those who are dead.
Unless a human makes the choice to serve/worship Jesus prior to death; they have no remission of sins available after death.
Remember, “Paradise” was the waiting place for all those who had believed on Jesus (or God accounted their belief unto them as righteousness); UNTIL that day when Jesus entered into the holding place and gathered them all together and walked with them into Heaven. I have often wondered how Joseph (Jesus earthly father) reacted when he saw Jesus walk into paradise.
I was taught that Pergatory was actually HELL .. the place where your soul would stay if you had never received Jesus as your Savior. Receiving Jesus had to occur PRIOR TO PHYSICAL DEATH. Praying for a deceased person who you may believe was in purgatory .. would be useless .. because there was no entrance for them into Heaven without the blood of Jesus, right ..??
Though it is sad to think about, some people will never reach Heaven; even though they have been given ample opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior while they were alive on the earth.
I know my views may not agree with yours, but I believe the Bible agrees with me.
....”pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins”....
Jesus already completed, that work in full ....once and for all. It’s finished...... Any doctrine that denies the sufficiency of Christ is to be rejected. Anyone who believes that God can be manipulated or bribed by prayers or sin offerings, is misled.......prayer is the means in which God gets his will done ‘on earth’ not the means in which man gets his will done ‘in heaven’.
Further...Mary and the saints are humans who have died and God forbids us to try and contact the dead........“Let no one be found among you who.......... who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD …” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12).
...”They are an abomination”...
If you think that then why read them as you did in responding to this?
Freedom_Is_Not_Free: And so begins yet another sorrowful round of Christian infighting between the born again evangelicals and the Catholics. These threads do not serve the Lord God in any way. I am sorry that the good Christians here cannot refrain from posting doctrinal articals that only lead to fighting between us.
Remind me to ping you both to some Catholic threads some time, wherein Catholic Tradition is used to justify anti-Protestant Christian bashing.
The Septuagint version of Scripture that Jesus quoted in the NT contained the Deuterocanonical books.
Luther did indeed remove books from Scripture, out of historical ignorance.
If you’re being honest, you have to acknowledge that there are far, far more anti-Catholic threads posted by Protestants, than there are threads of the reverse.
In Jesus days there were such debates and accusations as well.....Jesus himself cried out...’White washed hypocrites”...and “Brood of vipers”.... when speaking to the religious teachers and law givers of his day because they set their teachings against his. .......So too are we called to defend the faith.
Only a True Scotsman would admit to such a thing.
Whatever blows your skirt up, caww..
Still spreading hopelessness and heresy, Mom?
Well in Jesus days there were many false teachings then which he spoke against as well......so it’s no different to day that false teachings are numerous .... so there will be more of those to challenge in order for truth to ultimately be revealed....calling them anti-catholic is just a catholic term that keeps them in bondage to the victim card played so often.
....”Whatever blows your skirt up, caww”....
Well it’s exactly that type of response that is soooo revealing.
He removed it because it doesn’t square with the truth of the Gospel, which connects all “loosing from sin” to faith in Jesus Christ TODAY:
“He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”—Hebrews 4
Revealing what? Did I post to you originally? I don’t think I did. You have a good night, Skippy.
Sorry that so many catholics continue to post curt remarks rather then discuss the topic......in time they do float away which leaves those interested in discussion ...so I’ll patiently wait while the sifting occurs.
Am enjoying your articles a great deal...so again thanks for posting them.
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Necromancy is all this can be.
And the angel said to the women at the tomb of Jesus, “ why do you seek the living among the dead “ or in dead places..
God’s word forbids us to talk or communicate to the dead period.
Jesus Christ said, I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, no man comes to the father, but by me..
He called some ‘whited sepulchres’. A sepulcher is a place for something dead. Jesus was telling them that they were the place of dead souls in them, souls without life in their spirit, the very Life Jesus was bringing through the Grace of God in Christ.
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